Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BigJoe#1]

How ridiculous is this?

From 4am 7th December you need to take a test within 48 hours of travelling to the UK.... however, if you're travelling and returning to the UK within 3 days......

From the governments website...

Taking your test in the UK before travel​

If you are returning to the UK within 3 days, you can use the result of a COVID-19 test that you take in the UK before you travel. You must use a private test provider for the test and not an NHS test.

The service on which you will arrive back in the UK must set off for the UK within 3 days of when you took the test.

So you test negative before you go abroad, you then, for example, go to a party and unknowingly catch Covid, but you can come back to the UK without a negative test because you tested negative before you left the UK.... REALLY?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Maybe If these antiviral pills work it could mean that in a few years only the vulnerable and elderly will have to have the vaccine like with the flu jab and all the rest of the population who get Covid you have this Antiviral pill that stops them getting really ill and ending up in hospital!?

The latest data on molnupiravir isn't great, to the extent it only just got approval in the US (13-10 vote). It's a good addition to the armoury, but probably unlikely to be a game changer.

U.S. FDA panel narrowly backs Merck's at-home COVID-19 pill

A panel of expert advisers to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday narrowly voted to recommend the agency authorize Merck & Co's antiviral pill to treat COVID-19.

www.reuters.com

The initial data from the Pfizer development, Paxlovid looks far better. Hopefully that holds up through review.

Pfizer’s Novel COVID-19 Oral Antiviral Treatment Candidate Reduced Risk of Hospitalization or Death by 89% in Interim Analysis of Phase 2/3 EPIC-HR Study | Pfizer

PAXLOVID™ (PF-07321332; ritonavir) was found to reduce the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% compared to placebo in non-hospitalized high-risk adults with COVID-19 In the overall study population through Day 28, no deaths were reported in patients who received PAXLOVID™ as compared to 10...

www.pfizer.com

 

[Gabriel]

This was covered on Radio 5 this morning too. I think they reported that between 20 - 30% of intensive care beds were being taken up Covid sufferers who were mostly unvaccinated. It’s having a big knock on impact on other health care and operations like you said

It will likely also have an enormous effect on the psychology of hospital staff. Imagine having to save the life of someone whom you know has ignored all medical advice- may even do so in the future- while you refuse treatment to people who have followed advice but now finds themselves in desperate need of treatment. That’s before you think of the psychological impact on the bereaved families. How do they perceive ‘society’ per se after witnessing their family member tossed aside?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It will likely also have an enormous effect on the psychology of hospital staff. Imagine having to save the life of someone whom you know has ignored all medical advice- may even do so in the future- while you refuse treatment to people who have followed advice but now finds themselves in desperate need of treatment. That’s before you think of the psychological impact on the bereaved families. How do they perceive ‘society’ per se after witnessing their family member tossed aside?

Correct. It’s a lot complicated and damaging than the number of Covid admissions and deaths etc.

 

[hammocity]

This should be broadcast on TV

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Rapid test ‘identifies antibody effectiveness against Covid variants’

Scientists say the test could potentially tell doctors how protected a patient is from new variants and those currently circulating in a community

www.standard.co.uk

 

[tomomcfc]

How ridiculous is this?

From 4am 7th December you need to take a test within 48 hours of travelling to the UK.... however, if you're travelling and returning to the UK within 3 days......

From the governments website...

Taking your test in the UK before travel​

If you are returning to the UK within 3 days, you can use the result of a COVID-19 test that you take in the UK before you travel. You must use a private test provider for the test and not an NHS test.

The service on which you will arrive back in the UK must set off for the UK within 3 days of when you took the test.

So you test negative before you go abroad, you then, for example, go to a party and unknowingly catch Covid, but you can come back to the UK without a negative test because you tested negative before you left the UK.... REALLY?

That's how it's been for a long time, i went Porto on that 3 day return Covid test result

 

[BigJoe#1]

That's how it's been for a long time, i went Porto on that 3 day return Covid test result

Well, they've only just announced the need to test to enter the UK, effective from 7th December 4am?

Portugal may well have insisted you have a test to enter Portugsl?

 

[tomomcfc]

Well, they've only just announced the need to test to enter the UK, effective from 7th December 4am?

Portugal may well have insisted you have a test to enter Portugsl?

Yeah probably

 

[ganganvince]

How ridiculous is this?

From 4am 7th December you need to take a test within 48 hours of travelling to the UK.... however, if you're travelling and returning to the UK within 3 days......

From the governments website...

Taking your test in the UK before travel​

If you are returning to the UK within 3 days, you can use the result of a COVID-19 test that you take in the UK before you travel. You must use a private test provider for the test and not an NHS test.

The service on which you will arrive back in the UK must set off for the UK within 3 days of when you took the test.

So you test negative before you go abroad, you then, for example, go to a party and unknowingly catch Covid, but you can come back to the UK without a negative test because you tested negative before you left the UK.... REALLY?

Do you not have to retest within 2 days of return?