Coronavirus (2021) thread

[shemnel]

downwards we go.....

cases per 100k, seven day sum (by date of sample)

 

[Healdplace]

It doesnt matter exactly when they died , we have known from the start it is not the actual daily total , down playing the number is not the right thing to do , imo, if you dislike the media then complain to them

Many people believe what they are told about the number today as consequential to what they do today so I disagree it does not really matter.

You know it, of course, so do most regulars in this thread.

But the people see what they are shown by the media and they guide the actions and the mis actions of the next few weeks that will change the data a month from now.

So the lag in cases to death data does matter. Because we can only change it by acting properly now and not being left to think - whatever we do the deaths still rise. Why should I bother?

As I said the media should be making people understand that their choice to visit loved ones at Christmas because they 'would want me to' is partly why 1610 people died today - potentially that loved one - not whatever they have done since.

That message would hit home. Believing restrictions now just makes deaths go up will make them think there is no point bothering behaving at all as it changes nothing. But it does.

 

[CTID Chris]

I don’t understand how we can be getting so many cases/deaths. There is no mass gatherings, everything is shut almost. I don’t believe people are catching covid from walking outside

Everything isn’t shut, at all... you know that.

Supermarkets and (non) essential shops continue to be a problem. Schools are still busy. People are still having to go work unnecessarily.

Cases are reducing which is fantastic, but we all know a little more could have been done.

 

[Gray]

Don’t know, but wonder if there was some picking of the easy fruit first, and now they are teying to catch up on care homes before moving onto too many over 70s.
Which is why I think in a couple of weeks the different UK regions will be roughly in the same place but from slightly different routes.

My sons friend who is in his early 40’s got a letter inviting him to be vaccinated, he thought it was a mistake so got in touch with the clinic in Hale Barns. They said they had done everybody on their books from the older age groups so he is booked in to have his jab today. Meanwhile I am down in Timperley and am 75 next birthday, not heard anything yet. If I hear nothing this week my MP Graham Brady is getting an email from me asking what the hell is going on.

 

[mr t]

I don’t understand how we can be getting so many cases/deaths. There is no mass gatherings, everything is shut almost. I don’t believe people are catching covid from walking outside

I’ve thought this as well but you can catch it from touching surfaces and you don’t see much cleaning going on anywhere.
We went for a walk in the park before Christmas when you were allowed to get a coffee and sit on an outdoors table and there were loads of folk getting coffee / cakes and eating them at tables. I noticed that as folk left a table nobody cleaned the table before the next lot of folk arrived so it could be spreading in ways like this or even touching a door handle or the buttons on a card reader after an infected person has touched them.
To say we are supposedly in lockdown there are still a massive number of infections showing up each day.

 

[Indaparkside]

Everything isn’t shut, at all... you know that.

Supermarkets and (non) essential shops continue to be a problem. Schools are still busy. People are still having to go work unnecessarily.

Cases are reducing which is fantastic, but we all know a little more could have been done.

7am on the m60 this morning was like a normal day traffic to a standstill etc, lockdown my arse people are blatantly putting their middle finger up to to this lockdown and continuing life as normal

 

[cleavers]

It doesnt matter exactly when they died , we have known from the start it is not the actual daily total , down playing the number is not the right thing to do , imo, if you dislike the media then complain to them

Down playing the headline number is the right thing to do, because the highest single day daily death toll since the start of the pandemic is still April 8th at 1073 (the only date it was over 1000 in the first wave), the next highest (currently) is 1064 on Jan 11th, but there are now 4 dates in this wave over 1000.

Nobody is down playing deaths, every one is a tragic for their family and friends, and those that have tried to help them survive it.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Awful deaths figure, but continued consistent drop in cases very heartening. Positivity looks good too.

Drop in cases has been far faster than many feared with the new variant. Suggests perhaps
(1) Schools effect was larger than expected or
(2) Transmission advantage of new variant not as bad as feared, and previous rise only partially caused by it, maybe more by xmas socialising. (massive Ireland Christmas spike would be consistent with that).

Just speculating.

Very hopeful that deaths will peak within the week, and near certain that need occupancy will.

 

[CTID Chris]

7am on the m60 this morning was like a normal day traffic to a standstill etc, lockdown my arse people are blatantly putting their middle finger up to to this lockdown and continuing life as normal

But you know that 90% of them aren’t choosing to. Half of them aren’t being allowed to work from home, half of them can’t.

Wonder how many people were furloughed last March and haven’t been this time.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

7am on the m60 this morning was like a normal day traffic to a standstill etc, lockdown my arse people are blatantly putting their middle finger up to to this lockdown and continuing life as normal

I doubt there's too many on the road at that time who don't need to be. A bit like yourself I'd imagine.