Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
Better news from the hospitals. Under 9000 now in hospital across UK....TV news if you are reading!


Hospital data:

As I suggested they would last night - happily - after the small Monday rise in numbers we often see things returned to their steady downward path today.

UK total:


Patients 8999 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 30, 249 in 50 days)

Ventilators 1295 - it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 2782 in 44 days)
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Apparently the media aren't interested in the progress of the pandemic. A minor family squabble is more important.
 
Healdplace said:
Better news from the hospitals. Under 9000 now in hospital across UK....TV news if you are reading!


Hospital data:

As I suggested they would last night - happily - after the small Monday rise in numbers we often see things returned to their steady downward path today.


UK total:


Patients 8999 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 30, 249 in 50 days)

Ventilators 1295 - it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 2782 in 44 days)



England only:-

Patients: down 396 in day to 7451 v 10, 121 last week

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 26, 885 in 50 days)

Ventilators: Down in day 49 to 1187 v 1556 last week

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 2549 in 44 days)



Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week


East down 72 to 709 v 1032 // down 1 to 107 v 134

London down 70 to 1481 v 1932 // down 21 to 358 v 485

Midlands down 83 to 1653 v 2304 // down 9 to 257 v 328

NE & Yorks down 44 to 1221 v 1629// down 4 to 165 v 200

North West down 51 to 1167 v 1540 // down 4 to 141 v 182

South East down 46 to 937 v 1248 // down 9 to 118 v 174

South West down 30 to 283 v 436 // down 1 41 v 53



Every region down in both patients and ventilators quite consistently.
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lovely jubilee
 
Healdplace said:
Those graphs suggest there is a plateau point in cases and deaths below which - vaccines or not - we will not go. As this is in effect an endemic disease and vaccines will help but will never eradicate.

Although in truth this was alway looking like the outcome - that is still going to be a hard sell to the public who are likely perceiving them as the end game when they are really only ever going to be a way to curb the worst case outcomes as we live with a level of disease and death from Covid we will have to accept as normal.

If that proves to be where we are the debate on how and when we open up will have a different dimension.
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I'd interpret it differently. The UK graph isn't plateauing, it's continuing to fall exponentially. You can see it better on a log plot:

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So far, most of the reduction in deaths has been down to the lockdown rather than vaccines. Death rates will fall according to both restrictions and vaccination. We're doing much better on restrictions, so are seeing a continued fall despite having vaccinated far fewer people.

I think deaths should be able to be driven much lower than they are currently in Israel.
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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sorry blue..may he rest in peace..
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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Sorry for your loss pal.
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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Really sad to hear. My condolences to you and your family.
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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Sorry to hear that, proper shit news.
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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Thoughts with you and your family mate. RIP.
 
i8rags said:
Funeral today for my old man, very somber affair and upsetting, hopefully my family is done with this fucking nightmare and life might not be dominated by covid. Good luck blues to you and yours, see you on the other side.
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Absolutely awful, please stay strong, Blue. Condolences to you, your family and friends.
 
25 percent of my lads year of 200 kids sent home today after one full day back!
 
Nightmare Walking said:
BBC northwest news pushing a waste of money narrative into the Nightingale hospitals. Surely it was a case of having them and not needing them being better than needing them and not having them.

The fact they are being dismantled is a positive sign for me.
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What utter shite journalism. Would they have been happier if we had to use them FFS???

On a different topic however, a salutary reminder of just how utterly shit our handling of this has been here in the UK:

South Korea: population 51m; average age 43.7; COVID deaths 1,645; Deaths per 1m of population 32

UK: population 68m; average age 40.5; COVID deaths 124,797; Deaths per 1m of population 1,832

We are comparable countries in terms of population size and demographics and just look at the bloody difference! Even compared to western countries, our performance has been abjectly awful. We have the highest death toll per capita of any major country on planet earth. Absolutely woeful performance.

We have put peoples' freedoms and a desire to disrupt peoples' lives, too high up the agenda and as a result we have consistently locked down too late, too lightly, with too little deterent and punishments, and come out of lock downs too soon. And we have done so repeatedly, learning nothing from the previous mistakes. And the results speak for themselves. We score an F for Fail and our only redemption is the speed with which we are (thank God) rolling out the vaccines or else our performance would continue to be bottom of the class.
 
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worsleyweb said:
25 percent of my lads year of 200 kids sent home today after one full day back!
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If they were sent home because they have tested positive or been in close contact with someone that has to have happened before they went back. Didn’t they all have tests last week before returning
 
Eds said:
If they were sent home because they have tested positive or been in close contact with someone that has to have happened before they went back. Didn’t they all have tests last week before returning
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all negative Friday ready to go back. Many positive today and a number of close contacts sent home.
 
Don't get the fuss over kids self isolating. It happens, doesn't matter if first week or in 4 weeks. The measures are there, and in the whole of the last school term my lad was off for 1 week only. I get it's hard, but better times are ahead.
 
worsleyweb said:
all negative Friday ready to go back. Many positive today and a number of close contacts sent home.
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Surely they couldn’t have contracted it at school though, too quick for positive results. Be interested to hear why this has happened, doesn’t make sense to me.
 
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