Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gabriel]

This keeps getting repeated, but I have seen no evidence to support it.
The data hasn't been supplied to regulators yet - Fauci says next week maybe - so end of Feb is going to be the earliest I would expect.

March. Fauci set out the timeline last Thursday. J&J should have the data it needs to prepare its submission within two weeks (as of last Thursday), after which it will need two more weeks to complete its analysis before it submits. The FDA's analysis of that submission will in turn take around another two weeks, so we're looking at somewhere in March.

J&J expects to have 100 million doses available for the US market alone in April. The UK has an order for 30 million, with I think an option to take 22 million more, but I don't know the timescale.

I'm sure I read that J&J has stockpiled in advance, but quite how much and quite where that is heading is harder to determine.

 

[Del_Bosque]

This keeps getting repeated, but I have seen no evidence to support it.
The data hasn't been supplied to regulators yet - Fauci says next week maybe - so end of Feb is going to be the earliest I would expect.

They’ll be doing a rolling review like the other 3 that have been approved

so MHRA and FDA will already have large amounts of data

EMA who knows

 

[MillionMilesAway]

March. Fauci set out the timeline last Thursday. J&J should have the data it needs to prepare its submission within two weeks (as of last Thursday), after which it will need two more weeks to complete its analysis before it submits. The FDA's analysis of that submission will in turn take around another two weeks, so we're looking at somewhere in March.

J&J expects to have 100 million doses available for the US market alone in April. The UK has an order for 30 million, with I think an option to take 22 million more, but I don't know the timescale.

I'm sure I read that J&J has stockpiled in advance, but quite how much and quite where that is heading is harder to determine.

@Del_Bosque
I agree with both - the poster asserted "early next month" which is not going to happen.

It's possible that it's come from a Telegraph piece a few weeks back which said that the Janssen/J&J vaccine would help meet the mid-February goal.

It may be useful to fill the gap when the AZ doses need directing at 2nd doses rather than new people.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

 

[Gabriel]

They’ll be doing a rolling review like the other 3 that have been approved

so MHRA and FDA will already have large amounts of data

EMA who knows

The EMA already has a rolling review of the J&J vaccine as well. Full details of the EC's plan are here.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-united-front-beat-covid-19_en.pdf

Insomniacs can thank me when they wake up.

 

[Gabriel]

@Del_Bosque
I agree with both - the poster asserted "early next month" which is not going to happen.

It's possible that it's come from a Telegraph piece a few weeks back which said that the Janssen/J&J vaccine would help meet the mid-February goal.

It may be useful to fill the gap when the AZ doses need directing at 2nd doses rather than new people.

I suppose it's not entirely impossible to have it available toward the end of Fabruary. If J&J submitted to all three bodies simultaneously, say Feb 18th, then the UK, on current form, is likely to approve it within a week, so if stocks are available, it could be in use before the end of next month.

 

[Out on blue 6]

Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

Only if it doesn't snow. Otherwise all shut

 

[worsleyweb]

Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

The damage being done to kids having this long off school is immense. I am seeing it with my own eyes with my kids. is remains an impossible balance but dont under estimate the impact long term of them being off.

 

[abu13]

Ha - Politicians of every political party want schools to fully reopen and create a 4th wave. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

It's a shit situation all around, my worry is that schools are a breeding ground for this virus. Kids seem to be asymptomatic towards the virus but then bring it home to their families. On the strength of that alone I can understand people want to close them down.

On the other hand with two Grandkids I am really worried about what they are missing out on, already the best part of a year with a make shift education and now facing another couple of months at least.

 

[twosips]

anyone got any good and reassuring links/articles re the vaccine?

my wife's family, big family, is 50/50, with half the family fine with having the jab and half of them really reticent and worried, purely because they perceive it as new, or 'untested' or 'experimental'. Actual scientific papers wont work here, and apparently i'm not getting through to them - any good resources out there?

one more - one of them is breastfeeding, i assume no real trials were done on breastfeeding, as well as pregnant women?

If it helps reassure you, my missus' great grandad (about 97 or something) had his a few weeks ago and he's all good. Her mum has had both of the Pfizer, all good. A mate of ours (young NHS care worker) had hers, all good.