Coronavirus (2021) thread

[twosips]

406 deaths

18, 607 cases.

Wow Looks very good news.

Looks like tests were well down over the weekend though.

Great stuff. Not a huge drop in cases but can't argue with that massive drop in deaths. Amazing.

 

[Blu3m00n91]

Are we seeing the beginning of the end? I really hope so now.

 

[Healdplace]

3.3% positivity lowest yet.

18, 607 cases from 556, 564 pillar 1 & 2 tests.

No wonder there is a press conference

 

[Len Rum]

3.3% positivity lowest yet.

18, 607 cases from 556, 564 pillar 1 & 2 tests.

No wonder there is a press conference

You mean they're only held on 'good' days?

 

[Healdplace]

Positivity over the weekend

Saturday 645, 083 tests reports 23, 275 cases = 3.6% positivity

Sunday 420, 207 tests reports 21, 008 cases = 5.0% positivity

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

You mean they're only held on 'good' days?

that's why Boris stood there like a melon when 100,000 deaths were announced...

 

[Healdplace]

You mean they're only held on 'good' days?

I did not mean that at all no. We should share good news as well as bad.

Though I expect there will be some of that too - they will want to push the testing for the new variant.

Even so vaccinations going up and up, deaths and cases well down is a thing to report not just doom and gloom.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Vaccinations is the obvious answer. Globally numbers are adding up fast.

Way too soon for any significant global impact of vaccines. Only just starting to be apparent in Israel, and even there only in the older population, not total numbers.

More likely:

- majority of cases are N hemisphere
- most places reacted very slowly to rising cases in 2nd wave in Autumn
- Chickens have came home to roost - lockdowns or other significant restrictions in place almost everywhere to respond to 2nd wave
- reduction in cases is following those restrictions, aided somewhat by the level of immunity acquired through infection (likely ~20% in UK, for example).

 

[crazyg]

Just received my call-up letter today for my vaccination..
Going on line, it appears that he nearest centre to me is 5.7 miles away and there are appointments available all week.
Does anyone know where Manchester Sportcity is on Alan Turing Way in Manchester? Someone told me that it's near Johnson's Wire works on Grey Mare Lane, but I can't find it on the map.

 

[worsleyweb]

India have gone from 90,000 cases a day in September to 13,000 last few days.

Thats good news - must be related to the fact that so many have had it they cant catch it again.

 

[Healdplace]

Week to week on UK cases, tests and positivity

Last Monday 394, 479 tests finds 22, 195 cases = 5.6% positivity

Today 556, 564 tests finds 18, 607 cases = 3.3% positivity

Excellent week to week numbers.

 

[worsleyweb]

Just received my call-up letter today for my vaccination..
Going on line, it appears that he nearest centre to me is 5.7 miles away and there are appointments available all week.
Does anyone know where Manchester Sportcity is on Alan Turing Way in Manchester? Someone told me that it's near Johnson's Wire works on Grey Mare Lane, but I can't find it on the map.

Its the tennis centre near the stadium mate.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Are we seeing the beginning of the end? I really hope so now.

When the AZ vaccine results were announced (late November?): two vaccines with different technologies and credible supply chains - the beginning of the end was in sight.

We, unfortunately, failed to make the hard decisions to keep it under control in the meantime. I hope we've learned that lesson at long last.

 

[worsleyweb]

You mean they're only held on 'good' days?

Well clearly not.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Week to week on UK cases, tests and positivity

Last Monday 394, 479 tests finds 22, 195 cases = 5.6% positivity

Today 556, 564 tests finds 18, 607 cases = 3.3% positivity

Excellent week to week numbers.

I read somewhere that these numbers now include lateral flow tests, so not necessarily comparable on a positivity basis. Could be wrong, and still very good, heartening figures, and at the very best end of what anyone thought was possible Jan 4th when Johnson finally made the inevitable decision.

 

[sir baconface]

Because it is very haphazard.

My brother is two years younger than me in the 65 to 70 group and lives in a different GM Borough but he has now had two appointments for two different days and I am two years older and about 5 miles away from him and have not heard a thing.

There is no no coordinated strategy by the looks of it. It is a postcode lottery as to when they get round to you.

It’s only natural that some districts/medical practices are better organised or quicker off the mark than others. We’re not a centralised authoritarian state. There may be other reasons at play too but expecting uniform rollout everywhere is a tall order.

Not having a pop, by the way. Just felt moved to respond.

 

[sir baconface]

PM office on vaccinating care homes:

"You will see official figures that we will publish later today which we expect to confirm that we have offered the vaccine to residents and staff at every eligible care home with older residents across England.

"It is the case that a small number of care homes have had their visits briefly delayed and that was a decision made by local directors of public health due for safety reasons due to local outbreaks.

"But those care homes will be visited and jabbed as soon as NHS staff are able to go into those homes and do so."

I do wonder who is in charge of communication as it is not doing a great job of clarifying facts on this pandemic.

The word 'offered' is clearly a policy as it is used all the time and sometimes we seem to use words to confuse rather than to clarify,

Nowhere there do you learn how many care homes have been vaccinated or any real data - never mind what offered versus actually being vaccinated means.

So it appears to clarify when it simply makes you think it has done that when in truth we are none the wiser.

Most will assume that means the vast majority of care home residents in England have been vaccinated and those offered it and not yet given the jab are unable because of outbreaks there.

But that is not what it says and - unless there are far more care home outbreaks in England than in Scotland - should not make the big difference between numbers actually vaccinated versus offered to be vaccinated in Scotland v England.

Most will not think it through to ask that question. So the word offered is here acting as a weapon of mass deflection.

It hides the key question how many offered it are having the jab? Both residents and staff.

Scotland gives the exact numbers for both. And says how many declined. Why use the word offered as a coverall for everything that matters?

Agree. Both are important measures.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Thats good news - must be related to the fact that so many have had it they cant catch it again.

I don’t think they have had the lockdowns and restrictions the U.K. have had neither in a country of 1.3 billion.

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

In no hurry to get back out...either to the office or socially....having been in a strict lockdown for nearly 12 months now I may have become institutionalised..

 

[Uwe`s Grandad]

Just received my call-up letter today for my vaccination..
Going on line, it appears that he nearest centre to me is 5.7 miles away and there are appointments available all week.
Does anyone know where Manchester Sportcity is on Alan Turing Way in Manchester? Someone told me that it's near Johnson's Wire works on Grey Mare Lane, but I can't find it on the map.

I believe its next to some colloseum type sort of place, where people used to go and worship their Gladiators in crowds of 50,000 plus. Just get the odd tourist there now.
It's near there .