Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I did ask this before but no-one answered. The UK has essentially been in lockdown since mid November and prior to that a tier system. Yet the numbers have been pretty horrific.

Was the new variant the cause of this?
 
lancs blue said:
I got my first Pfizer jab this morning, had to wait 15 mins to ensure I didn't turn into a rag. Very efficient setup and so far zero after effects, not even a sore arm.
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Should that be, turned back to being a rag.
Pleased for you ,my wife getting her first next week
I'm a bit later , being a toy boy
 
robbieh said:
I did ask this before but no-one answered. The UK has essentially been in lockdown since mid November and prior to that a tier system. Yet the numbers have been pretty horrific.

Was the new variant the cause of this?
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I’m no way as qualified to answer as someone like Heald but my two penny worth..

I think so and the fact that so many are just ignoring lockdown and mixing households. Likely a combination of the two.

Christmas obviously didn’t help. Many didn’t just do Christmas Day, they continued between Christmas and New Year, which is obviously catching up.

A woman at work, she’s two levels up from me, brags about having parties every weekend.

It’s people like this that are the problem.

The government locked down far too late in winter, they could never tell me not to celebrate on Christmas Day but a lockdown like we are in now every day of December and January, other than this day, was needed.
 
Ban-jani said:
I’m no way as qualified to answer as someone like Heald but my two penny worth..

I think so and the fact that so many are just ignoring lockdown and mixing households. Likely a combination of the two.

Christmas obviously didn’t help. Many didn’t just do Christmas Day, they continued between Christmas and New Year, which is obviously catching up.

A woman at work, she’s two levels up from me, brags about having parties every weekend.

It’s people like this that are the problem.

The government locked down far too late in winter, they could never tell me not to celebrate on Christmas Day but a lockdown like we are in now every day of December and January, other than this day, was needed.
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Thanks for that. I guess not be careful with the original strain was problematic but with the much more infectious version even worse.
 
robbieh said:
Thanks for that. I guess not be careful with the original strain was problematic but with the much more infectious version even worse.
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That is a key aspect, you’re more likely to catch it in a supermarket now than previously and over 67 million people on a small island, that’s always going to have a significant affect.

Those mixing households right now, outside of bubbles and those that have no choice.. ie those doing for a piss up, really are selfish bastards.
 
robbieh said:
I did ask this before but no-one answered. The UK has essentially been in lockdown since mid November and prior to that a tier system. Yet the numbers have been pretty horrific.

Was the new variant the cause of this?
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The new variant makes things worse.

But the lock down and other restrictions do not define the number of cases. The restrictions just define the rate of change- whether cases go up or down.

The same restrictions will control the level of cases to 600 or 60,000 daily cases. The reason cases are so high is because we didn't act until the virus was out of control.
 
Has anyone had the vaccine at the etihad? Taking my mates dad tomorrow to avoid him getting the bus and not sure if it’s at the ground or the tennis centre? He just said etihad So not sure! Is there just the one vaccine centre there?
 
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Has anyone had the vaccine at the etihad? Taking my mates dad tomorrow to avoid him getting the bus and not sure if it’s at the ground or the tennis centre? He just said etihad So not sure! Is there just the one vaccine centre there?
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Tennis centre mate, my mum had her jab there, said it's well organised and sign posted, with volunteer's helping people outside.

Ps make sure he has his reference number you get one after booking it online. And yes just the tennis centre for the vaccination.
 
cleavers said:
She's endangering your whole workforce, potentially causing an office quarantine. Go above her and complain, in my employment it would likely be gross misconduct, and a sack able offence if I did it and was found out.
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We work from home mate, I would refuse to go in if we were there in person.

She brags on conf calls about, but the calls she does she’s considered senior leadership and I’m not.
 
mcfc_ms said:
Has anyone had the vaccine at the etihad? Taking my mates dad tomorrow to avoid him getting the bus and not sure if it’s at the ground or the tennis centre? He just said etihad So not sure! Is there just the one vaccine centre there?
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The tennis centre at the bottom of Joe Mercer Way. You'll not go wrong I promise you. It's so well organised and there's loads of people there to guide you at every stage from the time you pull off Alan Turing Way right the way through.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
The tennis centre at the bottom of Joe Mercer Way. You'll not go wrong I promise you. It's so well organised and there's loads of people there to guide you at every stage from the time you pull off Alan Turing Way right the way through.
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Murph said:
Tennis centre mate, my mum had her jab there, said it's well organised and sign posted, with volunteer's helping people outside.

Ps make sure he has his reference number you get one after booking it online. And yes just the tennis centre for the vaccination.
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Thanks both. Thought it would be
 
Ban-jani said:
We work from home mate, I would refuse to go in if we were there in person.
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OK fair enough, if you don't come into contact with her that's good.

Anyone else in the SLT confront her ? Maybe it's all blag to sound brave and important, can honestly say that nobody I've spoken to at my work, in office or wfh, has even hinted at breaking the rules, so to be doing it in these sorts of meeting (whether or not she actually does it) is an extremely bad example to set from someone senior, and her bosses should be telling her so.
 
cleavers said:
OK fair enough, if you don't come into contact with her that's good.

Anyone else in the SLT confront her ? Maybe it's all blag to sound brave and important, can honestly say that nobody I've spoken to at my work, in office or wfh, has even hinted at breaking the rules, so to be doing it in these sorts of meeting (whether or not she actually does it) is an extremely bad example to set from someone senior, and her bosses should be telling her so.
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Probably more hassle than it’s worth for them to be honest.

They’ve got more to worry about than that.

To be fair, we’re a close knit team and nobody agrees with her.
 
Sorry I have not contributed to trying to answer your question, robbieh (had to finish something on a deadline today in my 'day job' so been distracted a bit).

You have already had plenty of good answers. And there are certainly far more qualified people on here to give them than me.

I have no expertise in this and just post the numbers and speculate like most people are doing everywhere tbh.

But we are in winter versus Spring and Summer as in the past. This is a virus that thrives in the winter just like flu does. It was known from day one we would have a bad winter wave if this was still around by then and it has in fact not gone as high or lasted as long as I think most people had feared it might.

To be on such a downward track with 6 weeks of Winter left is encouraging. And suggestive it is going this well partly because national lockdowns work better than regional ones - which I have always believed. But also as we now have this unprecedented nationwide vaccination programme on a scale unseen in the world in a nation like ours. The two together appear to be working. Better than I had hoped.

It could still turn the other way and the true impact of the vaccine is probably still to come. If that works as well as we all hope this will indeed be a good few weeks.

The real risk is over compensating and relaxing too early and letting the virus overtake us when on the last turn towards the home straight.

We could be out of this before any other major economy (though out of it is relative as we will be living with keeping Covid in control for years not weeks - so perhaps much as we were last Summer perhaps - not this winter hopefully ever again). But if we are tempted to jump too soon we may lose all the hard won advantage we are building up.

Like Christmas exiting this lockdown is a critical moment, We have to judge it just right. And not go mad because things look good. A pandemic can turn on a sixpence if we do.

But manage this right and if our luck holds we may be in a better place to recover than many others.

I just hope that if we are then we are generous in how we assist the poorer parts of the world getting out of this too.

We should show leadership and use our fortune to benefit others. Long term we need the world to get through this too and the world will remember who was selfish and looked after themselves and who was ready to help the less fortunate.

I see a huge Covid Aid concert coming this Summer to look forward to perhaps.
 
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