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Higher efficacy in Oxford jab with three months between doses​

A three-month gap between the two doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine results in higher vaccine efficacy than a six-week gap, a new study suggests.
The research indicates that with three months between the first and second dose there was an overall efficacy of 81%, compared to 55% for a six-week interval.
The first dose offered 76% protection in the three months between doses, according to the University of Oxford research published in The Lancet.

 
blueparrot said:

Higher efficacy in Oxford jab with three months between doses​

A three-month gap between the two doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine results in higher vaccine efficacy than a six-week gap, a new study suggests.
The research indicates that with three months between the first and second dose there was an overall efficacy of 81%, compared to 55% for a six-week interval.
The first dose offered 76% protection in the three months between doses, according to the University of Oxford research published in The Lancet.

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Excellent news along with the 90%+ efficacy with the Pfizer after 1 jab

Vaccine roll out could not be going better tbh
 
530, 801 pillar 1 & 2 tests - down 15, 551 from yesterday to find 30 fewer cases.

We really seem to have plateaued now.

Last three days of cases all 600 odd apart in the 12,000s.
 
Regional Scoreboard:

Despite the small fall in UK cases this was actually not a great day for the North West but especially for Greater Manchester. As much of the NW just flat.

However, almost the entire NW rise was in GM today and the GM % of the NW shot up from 43.4% to 48% in one day. This is the highest GM has been since it was put in the highest tier in the autumn.

We are talking modest numbers - up from 684 to 832 in GM - highest number in 8 days and a rise of 148

Out of a NW total that rose from 1575 by 157 to 1732.

Out in the lead as the highest region still.

Single days in testing mean little as they will go up and down but the way the NW numbers are stubbornly sticking is clear from the last 8 days which are:-


1758 - 1960 - 1813 - 1527 - 1735 - 1846 - 1575 - 1732

About as flat as they go.
 
Healdplace said:
530, 801 pillar 1 & 2 tests - down 15, 551 from yesterday to find 30 fewer cases.

We really seem to have plateaued now.

Last three days of cases all 600 odd apart in the 12,000s.
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So the question is where do we go from here, do we chug along with this half hearted lockdown, and then never lift the restrictions, or do we have proper lockdown and really go after this virus. or will the government just lift things regardless.

I think with the shear ammount of people going about their business day to day conpared to last spring there was always a chance that the ammount of sustained social interaction would lead to some sort of plateau in cases?
 
Greater Manchester Summary:

Manchester had its highest number in two weeks at 189 Up 61 and a big rise on this day last week too

Bolton also over 100 - at 103. and again a significant rise on last week,

So Weekly Pop Scores here both go up and they have mostly been stalled or falling recently.

Wigan's story is much the same up and up but just managed to stay sub 100 at 95.

The vast majority of the GM rise came from these three boroughs all up week to week too.

Tameside was also up to 85 and up week to week and still in some trouble.

Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford and Stockport had better days though none spectacular.

Bury down 2 to 77 and up big week to week. Stockport up 9 to 67 but down week to week. Oldham likewise up 9 to 62 but up week to week. Salford down 2 to 61 and down week to week and Rochdale up 5 to 52 but down week to week.

Once again only Trafford had a really good day - down to just 41 and down week to week and head and shoulders above every other borough in GM.

As I have said before in my reports Andy Burnham and co should be investigating what Trafford is doing right that the rest of GM is not as in an urban area there must be a reason for their clearly different trend right now.

In under a month they have taken over every single one of the records in Greater Manchester - including the lowest Pop Score across the entire pandemic that Stockport had held for many months.

Worth finding out how and why - is it no new variants? - better compliance? - no idea. But it would help to find out.
 
blue for life said:
Well said Heald Place. I am getting a bit fed up of the attacks on Sturgeon on here. I ambivalent to her but she seems in the main to be doing a decent job in difficult circumstances. Professional reporting of what’s going on too. There is a whiff of English nationalism on this thread at times which stinks a bit and should maybe on the political thread instead.
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haha! English nationalism When describing the Scottish nationalist party! You couldn’t make it up.
 
blue for life said:
Glad you are amused. I am no fan of the SNP or her. But sick of the constant sniping. Do you not like her because she is not a Tory?
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don’t like her full stop.her behaviour during covid has been in my opinion beyond contemptible. Of course people are welcome and will disagree. I just see an obsession with working and point scoring against the government. The comment just made me laugh.anyway covid.
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
So the question is where do we go from here, do we chug along with this half hearted lockdown, and then never lift the restrictions, or do we have proper lockdown and really go after this virus. or will the government just lift things regardless.

I think with the shear ammount of people going about their business day to day conpared to last spring there was always a chance that the ammount of sustained social interaction would lead to some sort of plateau in cases?
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A proper lockdown ?

What else is there to lockdown? I can only leave my house for food and a walk nearby, haven't seen son/Mum and Dad/City/inside of a pub for months.

They could close schools for key workers I guess, but then we wouldnt have hospitals and emergency services or food on the shelves.

It's people breaking the rules that's the problem, not the rules.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
So the question is where do we go from here, do we chug along with this half hearted lockdown, and then never lift the restrictions, or do we have proper lockdown and really go after this virus. or will the government just lift things regardless.

I think with the shear ammount of people going about their business day to day conpared to last spring there was always a chance that the ammount of sustained social interaction would lead to some sort of plateau in cases?
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Far more businesses open as in manufacturing, we will have to live with this for some time , no chance of a stricter lockdown, it’s also worth remembering that for the huge majority catching COVID is not a death sentence, as the vaccine works its way down the age range the positive cases recede. We can’t expect the younger generations to put life on hold forever .
 
Good news again from the England Hospital data:

Even for the North West


England Patients

15, 018 - down 615 from 15, 633 last night. Last Friday 19, 009 - down 3991 in 7 days



East 1536 - down 143 from 1679 - last Friday 2140 - down 604.

London 3048 - down 11 from 3059 - last Friday 3882 - down 834

Midlands 3190 - down 90 from 3280 - last Friday 3840 - down 650

NE/Yorks 2197 - down 108 from 2305 - last Friday 2723 - down 526

North West 2198 - down 124 from 2322 - last Friday 2754 - down 556

South East 2025 - down 91 from 2116 - last Friday 2561 - down 536

South West 824 - down 48 from 872 - last Friday 1109 - down 237


England Ventilators

2251 - down 65 from 2316 last night - last Friday 2688 - down 437 in 7 days

East 183 - down 7 from 190 - last Friday 213 - down 30

London 705 - down 1 from 706 - last Friday 859 - down 154

Midlands 439 - down 3 from 442 - last Friday 525 - down 86

NE/Yorks 263 - down 15 from 278 - last Friday 293 - down 30

North West 284 - down 6 from 290 - last Friday 314 - down 30

South East 270 - down 25 from 295 - last Friday 344 - down 74

South West 107 - down 8 from 115 - last Friday 140 - down 33



Everywhere still going down and North West a little more like elsewhere which may augur well for that hospital death percentage from the region in coming days.
 
Healdplace said:
I agree with this Nellie's left peg - it would certainly do no harm to ask. In your position if still a carer even given that age I would too.

But via your local GP who knows that you are in this position unlike a list you might not be on that someone might read from at the end of a phone line. You can emphasise the risk as a carer and your GP will understand why that matters from your personal circumstances.

They can probably stress that to those doing the call outs and add you to that list. Whereas GPs afaik cannot just do it on their own. They get notified you are in the next batch due more or less when you do but probably can tell the right people if they think you have been left behind.
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Good news, the wife has got her appointment fo next Saturday after ringing the gp surgery and doing my Victor Meldrew impression. Although I'm her carer I'm not eligible just yet but I'm not bothered as long as she is ok
 
Weekly Pop Scores Greater Manchester

Measures cases per 100,000 population from 7 days ago v today

Up in those 7 days is bad, down is good. The lower the Pop Score the better the area is doing. Going up by more is bad, going down by more is good.

BOROUGH // POP SCORE TODAY // POP SCORE LAST FRIDAY // UP /DOWN / BY


Trafford 124 // 148 // down 24

Stockport 169 // 191 // down 22

Oldham 171 // 184 // down 13

Rochdale 172 // 200 // down 28

Wigan 175 // 184 // down 9

Manchester 187 // 205 // down 18

Salford 202 // 224 // down 22

Tameside 213 // 183 UP 30

Bolton 226 // 275 // down 49

Bury 228 // 209 // UP 19


The Manchester Evening News article someone posted last night about Bury and a new variant has panned out and they are back up top after two high scoring days. But Tameside is also not doing well and up by even more.

Bolton was by far the worst last week but has turned things round and whilst still up there in the raw numbers just behind Bury (it was ahead all week) it has fallen week to week the most and seems under control.

Mot other boroughs are bunched together and edging down slowly.
 
unicorn said:
A proper lockdown ?

What else is there to lockdown? I can only leave my house for food and a walk nearby, haven't seen son/Mum and Dad/City/inside of a pub for months.

They could close schools for key workers I guess, but then we wouldnt have hospitals and emergency services or food on the shelves.

It's people breaking the rules that's the problem, not the rules.
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Your efforts and those of many others is commendable. But surely you must have seen that the country is far busier than it was last April May. Many more businesses are open than then. A shorter harder lockdown is what is needed imo.
 
Nellies left peg said:
Good news, the wife has got her appointment fo next Saturday after ringing the gp surgery and doing my Victor Meldrew impression. Although I'm her carer I'm not eligible just yet but I'm not bothered as long as she is ok
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That is good to hear. There is a degree of potluckery involved.

I heard today that a relative who is in his early 40s and no known conditions has got his jab booked today. His wife is in her early 50s and has not. They are registered with different GPs is the only thing we can presume.

Both have had Covid and her mother died from it.

Officially she died of it - that is - as she seemed to have recovered but that little detail evidently is not relevant.

Of course, he is a blue and she is not so maybe that is the true criteria being applied.
 
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