Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BlueAnorak said:
The only way it could have been stopped was to close schools the day after the new strain was identified as s threat (18th December). They didn't. I don't think any alternative government would either. SAGE certainly weren't calling for it.
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The govt at that point were not merely keeping schools open, they were actively preventing them from closing under threat of legal action.

SAGE did indeed advise drastic action on 22nd Dec.
Population level approaches to further reduce contact between people are likely to be necessary, such as extending Tier 4; changing the operation of schools/ universities; travel restrictions between regions and internationally; and/or introducing a national lockdown (high confidence).

www.gov.uk

SAGE meetings, December 2020

Minutes and papers from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings held in December 2020.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The govt instead left some Christmas relaxations in place, left shops open through the sales and restaurants in a large slice of the country.

It's been estimated as many as 30,000 people may die as a result.
 
1820 deaths. The lower end of the baked in death numbers from cases recorded 3 weeks ago but still bad and they aren't going to fall for a week or so.
With 40%+ of kids still going to school the case numbers are not going to come down quickly either.
 
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Ive been ill since about 4th of Jan. Thought I'd got away with the lung side of things but just started to feel short of breath and have a dry cough since yesterday.
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Blimey mate...hope this is the last of it for you.
BlueAnorak said:
The German health services send nurses out to older folks who are ill to check Oxygen Levels - an attempt to reduce Sepsis in the community. It has worked well in the pandemic as oxygen levels often drop dangerously low 2 or 3 days before serious Covid-19 systems and early hosoital treatment when this symptom occurs often prevents death.
For the life of me I don't understand why other countries haven't also put this in place.
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Absolutely, especially with the risk of silent hypoxia.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The govt at that point were not merely keeping schools open, they were actively preventing them from closing under threat of legal action.

SAGE did indeed advise drastic action on 22nd Dec.
Population level approaches to further reduce contact between people are likely to be necessary, such as extending Tier 4; changing the operation of schools/ universities; travel restrictions between regions and internationally; and/or introducing a national lockdown (high confidence).

www.gov.uk

SAGE meetings, December 2020

Minutes and papers from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings held in December 2020.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The govt instead left some Christmas relaxations in place, left shops open through the sales and restaurants in a large slice of the country.

It's been estimated as many as 30,000 people may die as a result.
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All schools had closed by the end of the 22nd December. Also we have seen from other stats, Christmas baubles didn't spread the virus as predicted as people were generally sensible.
 
My Dad just got his call up for the vaccine. getting it tomorrow afternoon. No sign of my Mum getting one yet. its all very odd, very close age and while my Dad has a bad heart my mum has COPD so you'd expect them at similar times.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Christmas baubles didn't spread the virus as predicted as people were generally sensible.
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You can't possibly know that, as you don't know what would have happened had they *not* been in place.

I assume you mean Dec 22nd for schools...
 
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