Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

IMO we should be prioritising vaccination of prisoners and POs. I would happily delay my own highly anticipated jab to enable that.

I don't expect it to be a popular opinion!

Definitely not popular but it probably should be prioritised to safeguard the staff. Teachers have been shown to be no more at risk than the general working population but I'd be very surprised if prison officers aren't right up there in the at risk stakes.

 

[unicorn]

Yes, especially those we most despise. Seriously.

I agree. Vaccination on basis of highest risk, not most "deserving" please. Frankly if I'm vaccinated today (I'm 56) I won't be able to do anything until pubs re-open anyway !

 

[twosips]

IMO we should be prioritising vaccination of prisoners and POs. I would happily delay my own highly anticipated jab to enable that.

I don't expect it to be a popular opinion!

I just googled it. Apparently there is only 80k odd in prisons in the UK. Certainly wouldn't take long if they wanted to. Wouldn't get past the front pages of the news though.

 

[Healdplace]

GM scoreboard:

368 - down from 374 - 45.5 % of the NW total of 808 - down 72 . Rises from 42.5 % yesterday.

Wk to wk: 1013 v 941 v 1050 v 654 v 964 v 368 today - Rather erratic on Mondays but clearly well down.



Manchester 79 - down from 99. Pop score up 14 to 9039. Weekly cases 686. Weekly Pop down 17 to 124.

Bolton 45 - up from 34. Pop score up 16 to 8456. Weekly cases 448. Weekly Pop down 27 to 156.

Wigan 45 - up from 30. Pop score up 14 to 8314. Weekly cases 414. Weekly Pop down 18 to 126

Rochdale 32 - up from 28. Pop score up 15 to 8937. Weekly cases 347. Weekly Pop down 16 to 156.

Oldham 30 - down from 35. Pop score up 13 to 9132. Weekly cases 300. Weekly Pop down 13 to 127.

Stockport 29 - down from 33. Pop score up 10 to 6680. Weekly cases 383. Weekly Pop down 29 to 131. Biggest fall in Pop score by Stockport in ages. Lowest score by Stockport in ages and huge week to week fall.

Salford 29 - down from 33. Pop score up 12 to 8417. Weekly cases 307. Weekly Pop down 22 to 119.

Trafford 29 - up from 25. Pop score up 12 to 6603 - despite being on the same score Stockport's bigger population means a larger Pop rise for Trafford meaning for first time in a while their lead falls to 77 for best Pop across the pandemic. Weekly cases 204 - lowest in GM by far. Weekly Pop down 21 to become first GM borough sub 100 in several months. But again not the lowest score today.

Tameside 25 - down from 31. Pop score up 9 to 7503. Best Pop score today and first single figure for Tameside in a while. Well and truly over its recent problems. Weekly cases 311. Weekly Pop down 31 to 135. One of the biggest single day fall I recall. Even beats Stockport who had a cases fall of 85 from 114 week to week - Tameside falling from 90 to 25 in the week!

Bury 25- up from 18. Also looks over the 'crisis' it was in according to the media the other day. Another best score. Pop score up 13 to 8575. Weekly cases 286. Weekly Pop down 28 to 150. Yet another big weekly Pop fall today in GM. Some doozies today in that regard that has boosted the GM numbers no end.


Weekly Pop - Borough / Today / Seven days ago / Up/down by Lowest score is best - going down good/up bad

I add the Pop score across the entire pandemic too at the end per 100. This is essentially the percentage of the population in the borough who have tested positive and been recorded. So the minimum immunity acquired that way - if indeed any lasts up to a year by that route. Unrecorded cases, asymptomatic and, of course, vaccinated immunity are all on top of this base number locally.


Bolton 156 / 229 / down 73 Testing positive 8.4%

Rochdale 156 / 175 / down 19 Testing positive 8.9%

Bury 150/ 228 / down 78 Testing positive 8.6%

Tameside 135 / 203 / down 68 Testing positive 7.5%

Stockport 131 / 183 / down 52 Testing positive 6.7%

Oldham 127 / 147 / down 20 Testing positive 9.1%

Wigan 126 / 174 / down 48 Testing positive 8.3%

Manchester 124 / 179 / down 55 Testing positive 9.0%

Salford 119 / 189 / down 70 Testing positive 8.4%

Trafford 86 / 135 / down 49 Testing positive 6.6%



A much more healthy looking set of scores. More boroughs now below the NW average than above and nobody a lot above. Some big falls week to week and Trafford just keeps on dropping and is now far and away the best in GM and around where all the best scores in the UK are too.

Another good day for GM. But the lower you go the harder it is to get week to week numbers of this kind. If you are in single figures for your pop score there is only a single figure to drop day to day however well you do.

 

[Claytop]

Definitely not popular but it probably should be prioritised to safeguard the staff. Teachers have been shown to be no more at risk than the general working population but I'd be very surprised if prison officers aren't right up there in the at risk stakes.

Why not just the staff? If they’ve not been done already?

 

[hammocity]

IMO we should be prioritising vaccination of prisoners and POs. I would happily delay my own highly anticipated jab to enable that.

I don't expect it to be a popular opinion!

You're right, Prison Officers yes. Prisoners, no way, far more deserving cases.

 

[Manchester1894]

I saw the reopening of pubs with gardens as a small thing. Not worth the hassle, might as well as well take a flask to the park. People at my work are booking days off for that week?? Christ. Is it really worth booking a day off for?

 

[sky tot]

I saw the reopening of pubs with gardens as a small thing. Not worth the hassle, might as well as well take a flask to the park. People at my work are booking days off for that week?? Christ. Is it really worth booking a day off for?

I can’t wait to go for a beer with my mates . Can’t wait to go for a beer with my brother and city mates . I can’t wait to back to normality of going to the pub after a walk . It’s what people like doing , I don’t get pissed , just miss the social side of meeting up .Yes I realise pubs are only opening gardens but I will take that thanks .

 

[Indaparkside]

You're right, Prison Officers yes. Prisoners, no way, far more deserving cases.

Not everyone in prison are sex offenders etc some are in for fines, petty shop lifting etc,I wonder how many on this forum have gotten away with things they would have been locked up for a fair few I bet, not all are bad people some just act stupid at times

 

[unicorn]

I saw the reopening of pubs with gardens as a small thing. Not worth the hassle, might as well as well take a flask to the park. People at my work are booking days off for that week?? Christ. Is it really worth booking a day off for?

Yes. It really is. I retired early to sit in public bars and pub gardens listening to folk talking garbage and occasionally look up from reading a book to chip in my two penn'orth.

Pubs are vital to the nation's mental health, particularly the old and lonely. Just look how desperate people are to be outside in queues for coffee chatting at the moment.

Can't wait for the 12th, just hope Council licensing regulations allow pubs enough scope to open gardens viably.

 

[shemnel]

Yes. It really is. I retired early to sit in public bars and pub gardens listening to folk talking garbage and occasionally look up from reading a book to chip in my two penn'orth.

Pubs are vital to the nation's mental health, particularly the old and lonely. Just look how desperate people are to be outside in queues for coffee chatting at the moment.

Can't wait for the 12th, just hope Council licensing regulations allow pubs enough scope to open gardens viably.

a pub near us put up a large scaffolded structure with tarp over it last September/October in anticipation of a winter re-opening which never came. The landlord is now saying it cant stay due to planning permission laws and temporary/permanent structures so i hope, as you say, council regs are looked upon a bit more....sensibly this spring/summer

 

[hammocity]

Not everyone in prison are sex offenders etc some are in for fines, petty shop lifting etc,I wonder how many on this forum have gotten away with things they would have been locked up for a fair few I bet, not all are bad people some just act stupid at times

I doubt anyone gets jailed for a single act of stupidity in the UK.

 

[Bluemoon dan]

I saw the reopening of pubs with gardens as a small thing. Not worth the hassle, might as well as well take a flask to the park. People at my work are booking days off for that week?? Christ. Is it really worth booking a day off for?

I think there's going to be a lot of this in the next year, people booking time off for work for seemingly quite trivial things.
If you have been fortunate enough to still be working in this past year you've probably got annual leave entitlement stacked up like never before (because let's be honest you've not really had any reason to take much time off, you've not been able to go anywhere or do anything)!

 

[shemnel]

I think there's going to be a lot of this in the next year, people booking time off for work for seemingly quite trivial things.
If you have been fortunate enough to still be working in this past year you've probably got annual leave entitlement stacked up like never before (because let's be honest you've not really had any reason to take much time off, you've not been able to go anywhere or do anything)!

precisely, ive got a bit of a backlog of annual leave (luckily for me) and so ive booked off 3 random days in May, keeping my fingers crossed for some sun - im going to go on a few long walks, take a book and take in a few pubs along the route, sounds ruddy glorious and i would never have done it previously.

 

[Marvin]

I can’t wait to go for a beer with my mates . Can’t wait to go for a beer with my brother and city mates . I can’t wait to back to normality of going to the pub after a walk . It’s what people like doing , I don’t get pissed , just miss the social side of meeting up .Yes I realise pubs are only opening gardens but I will take that thanks .

I am looking forward to seeing City bring some silverware back to the streets in Manchester. That will be the first sign of normality returning!

My hopes of herd immunity being quickly acquired this Spring are not going to happen but we should be able to manage this through till the start of next season when a 2nd round of vaccination should end this.

 

[Manchester1894]

Funny how clearer the mind is at 9am. :P I was awake 1am-4am last night - rotten nights sleep. Good point about pub gardens for older folk. That's the thing I like about this forum - people open your mind a bit further. By time April comes, most people over 50 will have been vaccinated I think won't they?

 

[The Earl of Abington]

Got my letter from the NHS on 26 March, (64 years old) booked both jabs online straight away and had the first one yesterday morning. No side-effects whatsoever. Must say I was very impressed with the whole process from start to finish, the people at the centre (in Northampton) were lovely, very professional, organised and efficient. Many thanks to all involved.

 

[splinter]

Funny how clearer the mind is at 9am. :P I was awake 1am-4am last night - rotten nights sleep. Good point about pub gardens for older folk. That's the thing I like about this forum - people open your mind a bit further. By time April comes, most people over 50 will have been vaccinated I think won't they?

I hope so I'm under 50 and hopefully get my first jab mid April

 

[splinter]

A quick look at the vaccine calculator and I'm now down for 7/4 its coming down..

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I hope so I'm under 50 and hopefully get my first jab mid April

Very much depends on where you are. Salford doing all over 50s now (my wife had her first yesterday evening) & there are reports of some areas already into the over 40s. Now that supply has improved I'd expect no holding back of those areas bombing ahead.