Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

Zoe App update: - Symptoms App predicts 4689 cases - up 144 on yesterday.

But the ongoing symptomatic cases fall yet again by 913 to just 70, 785.

Unfortunately the latest data (eerily matching the real numbers this week) shows that North West - which was second only to the South East and the only other part of the UK in a white rated (sub 100 pop score basically) region has slid in the past few days.

Now not only is it no longer a white zone - only South East is in the UK now. But it has slipped back behind London in the numbers. So only third best out of the 9 England regions and other three nations.

The increase is not by much but is what the Daily Pop scores for Greater Manchester I post here each evening have shown too. Largely because of a data glitch where the NW was under reported 8 days ago, So we have normalised the data in past couple of days.

But it is heartening to see Zoe App data justified in the real world numbers too. Gives confidence their main conclusion is right - that real case numbers have flatlined around 4500 and the number of symptomatic cases in the UK that drives the hospital data, of course - has been falling steadily and is not slowing down.

 

[jaseirai]

You’ll be a ’denier’ soon enough.......

Welcome back. I had thought all non-Branch Covidians were being excommunicated.

 

[unicorn]

Within a week or so of mass roll out of the vaccinations there were so many reports of people with long covid symptoms reporting the first dose made a difference they started collating the data to study it.

Yet, of course, the stories got a fraction of the attention that far fewer events did that led to people dying across Europe whilst the AZ vaccine use was paused.

To paraphrase the old adage - good news is no news but bad news sells papers.

Yes, I'd never have heard about the possible benefits of the vaccines on Long Covid if I hadn't been reading Blue Moon.

 

[meltonblue]

I know you said that but it is irrelevant. Even if AZ put a margin on it for wealthy countries AFTER the pandemic it still will be the cheapest vaccine by a country mile.

Irrelevant to what, you’re making a point I wasn’t arguing. Yes it will be, it’s cheaper to make and distribute. The J&J one will be not far off post pandemic I imagine.

 

[True_Blue69]

Back to this shit again is it?

let’s keep everyone locked down because some might go further than is permitted anyway.

load of bollocks.

Some of us have had only 26 days’ of legal social mixing in just over a year now.

The same was said when kids went back, it was the worst decision ever according to some but has had no impact on cases. The same will be said when gyms open, pubs open and eventually everything else (hopefully). Fingers crossed those with a negative mindset are wrong like they were with the kids going back.

 

[somapop]

Within a week or so of mass roll out of the vaccinations there were so many reports of people with long covid symptoms reporting the first dose made a difference they started collating the data to study it.

No report as yet as far as I know but it seems pretty clear that it is a not well anticipated but probably quite logical outcome of a successful vaccine that it helps not just to stop a new infection but kick out an old one that has remained in the system for weeks or months somehow enough to cause lingering symptoms.

I think these reports being so widespread was the first serious proof we had in the real world that the vaccine was for real.

Yet, of course, the stories got a fraction of the attention that far fewer events did that led to people dying across Europe whilst the AZ vaccine use was paused.

To paraphrase the old adage - good news is no news but bad news sells papers.

Absolutely agree.
First I heard was anecdotally on here and then the trickle in the media.

Not guaranteed of course but it’s given me a but if hope I get my fitness back.
Just back from dog walk & feel as though I’ve done a hand marathon run

 

[Cheesy]

So running of the Government parameters 70 people died yesterday of the COVID virus blocker, 3 million of the estimated 1.75 million vulnerable people have had their second jab so are 92%-96% immune for upto 3 months, 18 million sheep have had their first jab, what for? did they buckle at the government threat of COVID passports the denial of work or movement, other regimes have done this and ended up in war, but we would never do that, we would never increase a redundant nuclear threat.
The blocker came with minimum testing but indicated a 15% rejection rate and as every pensioner knows if you take a new drug it affects all the others, it can take months to get the balance right many die, GP`s run a risk everytime, so when someone tells you there is no risk they are lying, but for 1.75 million it is a risk worth taking again and again, to everybody else it is just a block on their body developing their own immune system, being 92% covered living with someone else covered 92% does not make it 100% quite the opposite the more blockers in society means the more likely it is to mutate to survive.
Having said that soon we will be able to toast the first martyr who died taking government prescribed drugs deemed safe for the benefit of society and his freedoms, you can see him on the back of £50 notes soon.

Fuck sake. Another lunatic.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

7 deaths - was 6 last week

201 cases - was 208 last week

2.8% positivity - was 3.2% last week



Also here is the data on the % of people by age and sex testing positive right now.

Wales have provided a very useful breakdown of these in wider groups:

AGE // MALE % // FEMALE % // TOTAL %

0 -9 // 2.2 // 2.0 // 4.2

10 - 19 // 4.3 // 4.9 // 9.2

20 - 29 // 8.3 // 10. 2 // 18.5

30 - 39 // 7.2 // 9.0 // 16.2

40 - 49 //6.4 // 8.2 // 14.6

50 - 59 // 7.2 // 8.9 //16.1

60 - 69 // 4.3 // 4.6 // 8.9

70 -79 // 2.8 // 2.8 // 5.6

80 - 89 // 2.0 // 2. 7 // 4.7

90 PLUS // 0.6 // 1.4 // 2.0


So in summary there are more older people testing positive in Wales than in N Ireland it seems (NI Publish the data daily too but only in the wider and less useful age bands Gov UK give).

Wales has an elderly population - retirees from England to north Wales for instance. Is this one reason its death rate is high for its population?

But nearly one third of those testing positive are under 30 and a higher percentage are schoolchildren than are aged 70 or over.

And 62.7% are under 50 and nearly 8 in 10 under 60.

Also notice that only age group in which males test positive more than females is the under 10s.

Boys will be boys I guess. More one to one contact in their play I expect.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

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Okay i take it that is an insult, so as the picture suggests think,
let us say you have a vulnerable pensioner in your family who has had the second jab, you also have young kids, will you have your kids take the jab knowing that they are not at risk but natures little germ spreaders?

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Fuck sake. Another lunatic.

Yep another lunatic with facts, and the reply was???????? at least some others liked it perhaps they enjoy knowing nothing.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Wales data:

7 deaths - was 6 last week

201 cases - was 208 last week

2.8% positivity - was 3.2% last week



Also here is the data on the % of people by age and sex testing positive right now.

Wales have provided a very useful breakdown of these in wider groups:

AGE // MALE % // FEMALE % // TOTAL %

0 -9 // 2.2 // 2.0 // 4.2

10 - 19 // 4.3 // 4.9 // 9.2

20 - 29 // 8.3 // 10. 2 // 18.5

30 - 39 // 7.2 // 9.0 // 16.2

40 - 49 //6.4 // 8.2 // 14.6

50 - 59 // 7.2 // 8.9 //16.1

60 - 69 // 4.3 // 4.6 // 8.9

70 -79 // 2.8 // 2.8 // 5.6

80 - 89 // 2.0 // 2. 7 // 4.7

90 PLUS // 0.6 // 1.4 // 2.0


So in summary there are more older people testing positive in Wales than in N Ireland it seems (NI Publish the data daily too but only in the wider and less useful age bands Gov UK give).

Wales has an elderly population - retirees from England to north Wales for instance. Is this one reason its death rate is high for its population?

But nearly one third of those testing positive are under 30 and a higher percentage are schoolchildren than are aged 70 or over.

And 62.7% are under 50 and nearly 8 in 10 under 60.

Also notice that only age group in which males test positive more than females is the under 10s.

Boys will be boys I guess. More one to one contact in their play I expect.

Or more to the point those who have had the 2nd jab ( most likely pensioners) have a lower %, a good example but a better one would have been age/death on a day week month period

 

[M18CTID]

So running of the Government parameters 70 people died yesterday of the COVID virus blocker, 3 million of the estimated 1.75 million vulnerable people have had their second jab so are 92%-96% immune for upto 3 months, 18 million sheep have had their first jab, what for? did they buckle at the government threat of COVID passports the denial of work or movement, other regimes have done this and ended up in war, but we would never do that, we would never increase a redundant nuclear threat.
The blocker came with minimum testing but indicated a 15% rejection rate and as every pensioner knows if you take a new drug it affects all the others, it can take months to get the balance right many die, GP`s run a risk everytime, so when someone tells you there is no risk they are lying, but for 1.75 million it is a risk worth taking again and again, to everybody else it is just a block on their body developing their own immune system, being 92% covered living with someone else covered 92% does not make it 100% quite the opposite the more blockers in society means the more likely it is to mutate to survive.
Having said that soon we will be able to toast the first martyr who died taking government prescribed drugs deemed safe for the benefit of society and his freedoms, you can see him on the back of £50 notes soon.

Shut the fuck up and get the jab you mard twat

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Shut the fuck up and get the jab you mard twat

No problem, exactly why? My parents have had it, they are at risk, my children have had it, they want to go on holiday this year, my grandchildren have not, as they are more at risk of the jab and my great grandchildren have not because their parents value their health/future. so why?
By the way they all have had the virus as well.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales vaccination update:

1, 365, 355 first doses - 23, 735 today - was 21, 432 yesterday & 27, 729 last week

400, 743 second doses - 11, 080 today - was 10, 868 yesterday & 10, 554 last week

 

[i8rags]

So running of the Government parameters 70 people died yesterday of the COVID virus blocker, 3 million of the estimated 1.75 million vulnerable people have had their second jab so are 92%-96% immune for upto 3 months, 18 million sheep have had their first jab, what for? did they buckle at the government threat of COVID passports the denial of work or movement, other regimes have done this and ended up in war, but we would never do that, we would never increase a redundant nuclear threat.
The blocker came with minimum testing but indicated a 15% rejection rate and as every pensioner knows if you take a new drug it affects all the others, it can take months to get the balance right many die, GP`s run a risk everytime, so when someone tells you there is no risk they are lying, but for 1.75 million it is a risk worth taking again and again, to everybody else it is just a block on their body developing their own immune system, being 92% covered living with someone else covered 92% does not make it 100% quite the opposite the more blockers in society means the more likely it is to mutate to survive.
Having said that soon we will be able to toast the first martyr who died taking government prescribed drugs deemed safe for the benefit of society and his freedoms, you can see him on the back of £50 notes soon.

100% wrong, 92% bat shit crazy, 100% of the time.

 

[Gabriel]

No problem, exactly why? My parents have had it, they are at risk, my children have had it, they want to go on holiday this year, my grandchildren have not, as they are more at risk of the jab and my great grandchildren have not because their parents value their health/future. so why?
By the way they all have had the virus as well.

You have parents and great grandchildren. Props!

 

[salfordbluetrue]

You have parents and great grandchildren. Props!

Yep my parents are both alive, but both vulnerable i thank god for their survival during the 10 months before the jab, the jab was a huge relief as well.

 

[M18CTID]

No problem, exactly why? My parents have had it, they are at risk, my children have had it, they want to go on holiday this year, my grandchildren have not, as they are more at risk of the jab and my great grandchildren have not because their parents value their health/future. so why?
By the way they all have had the virus as well.

Well don’t have it then but don’t go skriking if you catch a bad dose of Covid and end up in hospital gasping for air

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Well don’t have it then but don’t go skriking if you catch a bad dose of Covid and end up in hospital gasping for air

I will not, but then i believe that my health will not put me there, and that was the point we have no figures age or health on those that have died or even ended in hospital yet 18 million have taken the jab that are not at risk.

 

[worsleyweb]

Just driven through Cheetham Hill. Every single one of those wank counterfeit shops open. A fucking disgrace. Stain on our city that shithole.