Coronavirus (2021) thread

[hampshireblue]

Wales Vaccination update:

1, 742, 273 first doses given - 14, 818 today - was 15, 083 yesterday & 16, 983 last week

653, 537 second doses given - 17, 882 today - was 13, 142 yesterday & 14, 702 last week

Out of interest do any of the daily figures break down those who have had vaccinations and at what stage they are in that overall process if that is reflected?

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Why would you want to go from Ayia Napa to Newquay for your hols?

Not to mention those of us that have family in other countries that we haven’t seen for well over a year now. International travel is not just about club 18-30 (not that I have a problem with that either).

Holidaying in the UK is just of no interest to lots of people, me included. I have a weekend booked in Blackpool in July and a weekend in the lakes booked in June but I’d have done those regarless. Life is aspiratonal and a UK staycation in the miserable rain paying over the odds for everything just isn’t a holiday for me personally - or anyone I know in fact but each to their own.

 

[Healdplace]

Out of interest do any of the daily figures break down those who have had vaccinations and at what stage they are in that overall process if that is reflected?

I think only via reports later every week or two like the one posted above which analyses the impact of vaccines.

Because doing that takes time to collate and assess and daily data is instant.

Zoe App does have some data on vaccine efficacy. But its really apples and oranges daily data and longer term assessment of that data as it builds two parts of the same story.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths 19 with 4 from the North West.

Last week it was 18.


However, only 14 of this weeks 19 will likely count as the others are 78 days or more old

Nonetheless there are signs we seem to have bottomed out and it is unlikely we are going easily into single figures routinely.

 

[Healdplace]

The last few weeks England hospital deaths on Friday:

74 /14 NW

43 / 8 NW

33 / 4 NW

18 / 3 NW

19 / 4 NW

The last few days this week:

34 / 2 NW

25 / 4 NW

22 / 2 NW

19 / 4 NW

 

[Healdplace]

England 19 deaths:

By region:- 7 London, 4 North West, 3 NE & Yorkshire, 3 South West, 1East, 1 Midlands , 0 South East

By trust :- 3 Imperial and 2 Homerton in London the only ones not single figures.

In NW one each in Bolton, East Lancashire. Pennine Acute and Stockport.

8 of the 19 were aged over 80 and 10 aged 60 - 79

 

[Healdplace]

Scottish data:

1 death - was 3 last week

255 cases - was 204 last week

1.5% positivity - was 1.4% last week

93 patients - same as yesterday - was 109 last week

12 ventilated icu - same as yesterday - was 18 last week

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

1 death - was 1 last week

88 cases - was 119 last week

3.8% positivity - was 5.1% last week

7 day rolling cases total 736 - was 763 yesterday and 824 last week

4 care home outbreaks - same as yesterday - was 4 last week.

64 patients - up 2 on yesterday - was 74 last week

3 ventilated - down 2 on yesterday - was 6 last week


This is the lowest number on ventilators in any UK country or England region in over 6 months.

 

[KS55]

Are you posting this because you believe it or for a laugh?

Vermon Coleman is well known as a contrarian. Take no notice of him.

 

[KS55]

Airlines are milking it mate,there is a video on BBC,a guy who flew in from India said that the airline offered him a seat at normal cost,but he would miss the deadline and would have isolate on arrival in England.
Or he could pay 3 times the normal cost and be here before the deadline.

We should keep an eye on this and tell the transit countries they wii go on the red list if it persists.

 

[west didsblue]

Vermon Coleman is well known as a contrarian. Take no notice of him.

I know that. He's a loon.

 

[Healdplace]

So the number of deaths with out of hospital for England to add is:- 21

Wk to wk: 162 v 94 v 52 v 51 v 42 v 22 v 21

And the number of cases for the three nations with England to come is: - 401

Wk to wk:1080 v 993 v 914 v 616 v 512 v 371 v 401

 

[BlueHammer85]

Mate no offence but am sick of hearing holiday in the UK.

£1400 we got quoted last week for 4nights in a caravan in Newquay. Nothing short of a p take .

I don't know what thw answer is tho can the travel industry really survive another dead year . Then there will be no travel

Not quite Newquay, but we got a Caravan booked in Walton-On-Naze for £100 for 4 nights.

we went there last year, right by the beach and had a great time.

 

[Healdplace]

2678 cases slight fall on yesterday.

40 all settings deaths

Just over 1 million tests.

 

[Blue and still suffering]

England hospital deaths 19 with 4 from the North West.

Last week it was 18.


However, only 14 of this weeks 19 will likely count as the others are 78 days or more old

Nonetheless there are signs we seem to have bottomed out and it is unlikely we are going easily into single figures routinely.

I might be wrong about this but wasn't there a report in the Telegraph that said that those who are dying now are more of a result of natural causes but that they also happen to have Covid as well.

 

[Healdplace]

I might be wrong about this but wasn't there a report in the Telegraph that said that those who are dying now are more of a result of natural causes but that they also happen to have Covid as well.

That has never not been true. In the sense that some deaths have always been counted as a Covid death even if it is more than likely that was just present and triggered underlying causes in the very elderly.

There is no international agreement on what defines a Covid death and this is why international comparisons of death rates are fairly meaningless as they say as much about policy as practice.

We have changed definitions of a covid death more than once during the pandemic but we are still more transparent than many and as I have posted before I know personally of such a death being contested. There will be others.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

I might be wrong about this but wasn't there a report in the Telegraph that said that those who are dying now are more of a result of natural causes but that they also happen to have Covid as well.

Was just about to post the exact same thing. The numbers now are so low that you are looking at people with serious/terminal illnesses who happen to have Covid dying within 28 days of being tested. It probably hasn't happened yet but it also could include someone being hit by a bus, for example.

 

[grunge]

I might be wrong about this but wasn't there a report in the Telegraph that said that those who are dying now are more of a result of natural causes but that they also happen to have Covid as well.

if they reported that I think its pretty dangerous reporting, but then I dont expect much else from any media source at the moment.

when you look at the data.

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

there are 2 sets. 1 is the "quick" calculation which is 28 days + positive result. that could be flawed a little but it does what it was designed to do, provide a quick view of the status of it. 127k covered by this.

there is another stat though which is "Covid mentioned on death certificate" which is exactly that. Covid was a cause, contributing factor. which is at 150k.


Last summer is a good sign that the idea is bullshit too. we were < 10 deaths a day then. if it was relating to natural causes we would never have fallen below where we are now.

 

[Healdplace]

Regional Cases Today


Cases show up or down on yesterday and the v number is versus 7 days ago.


SOUTH

East UP 10 to 232 v 216

London UP 15 to 391 v 380 (London back again as the highest region)

South East UP 64 to 321 v 236 (South East in third spot after recent rises)

South West UP 10 to 137 v 126


Every southern region rising and up week to week.





MIDLANDS

East down 76 to 177 v 227

West down 40 to 202 v 224



Much better here with falls day to day and week to week




NORTH

North East down 4 to 95 v 90 (Lowest in England again today)

Yorkshire down 49 to 381 v 368 (Falls to second now below London today.



And, NORTH WEST down 22 to 278 v 318. (Behind

Behind London, Yorkshire and South East today.

 

[mrbelfry]

Just had my second COVID Vaccination! Roll on Summer...I’m going away...to Argate! :-) :-)

At the bottom of your garden?