Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Elbow beards said:
I wonder if anyone is watching the scenes in India and still thinking it's all a big hoax?
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already asked someone i know who massively downplays Covid and spouts against lockdown all the tiime, what about India... his reply was -

''i'm not saying it's bad over there, but there's no evidence to suggest that lack of lockdowns had any effect - also India is the most dirty, unhygienic, most polluted country on the planet ''
 
With the evidence in front of our eyes, via the TV and newspaper reports, if people don't believe that COVID is a real problem now, they probably never will. You just have to accept that there is a percentage of people who are as thick as two short planks.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
already asked someone i know who massively downplays Covid and spouts against lockdown all the tiime, what about India... his reply was -

''i'm not saying it's bad over there, but there's no evidence to suggest that lack of lockdowns had any effect - also India is the most dirty, unhygienic, most polluted country on the planet ''
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He’s not wrong with that last line!!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
already asked someone i know who massively downplays Covid and spouts against lockdown all the tiime, what about India... his reply was -

''i'm not saying it's bad over there, but there's no evidence to suggest that lack of lockdowns had any effect - also India is the most dirty, unhygienic, most polluted country on the planet ''
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That guy sounds like a racist, to be honest.
 
inbetween said:
You'd have to be stupid to think so, however the scenes in India are not necessarily a direct consequence of COVID or COVID mutations but rather a consequence of some of the worst public health decisions ever. They have just allowed one of the biggest festivals (Holi) in March to be held without any enforced restrictions.

India should of been under total lockdown a month ago, yet here they are just starting to impose lockdowns with cases now spiking at 500k per day. The thing is though that number will be at least double that because the testing capacity does not exist to capture so many cases.

This probably represents the worst of COVID but let's not forget that it was completely avoidable.
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Yep, and it’s not the first time India has handled a pandemic poorly, some estimates put the 1918-20 Spanish flu death toll at 18-20m people. Roughly 6% of its then population.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
Does anyone have any figures for the AZ one please?
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"The study shows that, by the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 in up to 85 per cent and 94 per cent, respectively."

Vaccine linked to reduction in risk of COVID-19 admissions to hospitals - News - Public Health Scotland

Vaccination has been linked to a substantial reduction in the risk of COVID-19 admissions to Scotland’s hospitals
publichealthscotland.scot publichealthscotland.scot
 
roubaixtuesday said:
"The study shows that, by the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 in up to 85 per cent and 94 per cent, respectively."

Vaccine linked to reduction in risk of COVID-19 admissions to hospitals - News - Public Health Scotland

Vaccination has been linked to a substantial reduction in the risk of COVID-19 admissions to Scotland’s hospitals
publichealthscotland.scot publichealthscotland.scot
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That’s hospitalisations rather than testing positive. But it’s still great news.
 
SWP's back said:
That’s hospitalisations rather than testing positive. But it’s still great news.
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so I am one of 6 percent who still ended up Ill after vaccine! I still can’t move now. Lay in bed feel like ran a marathon!
 
Manchester33 said:
That guy sounds like a racist, to be honest.
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Unfortunately, he's right to an extend regarding the pollution and general hygienic conditions. At the same time, I don't believe this second wave devastation is only caused by it. It has hit all parts of the nation pretty bad.

At least part of this damage is incompetent governments, both at centre and states. It was evident that India was going to face the second wave. Instead of improving the health care, stock piling oxygen and other supplies and vaccinating as quickly as possible, governments were relaxed, allowing religious festivals, election rallies and even spreading misinformation about medicines that works against covid. Ruling party even declared victory against pandemic under its great leadership. Unlike other badly hit countries we had more time to prepare for the second wave but squandered it.
 
I’ve just had a call with one of my German colleagues who lives in Dresden. He had his first shot of AZ yesterday, which surprised me as he is in his mid 40s. He said the state he lives in, Saxony, has opened up AZ to any age group who wants it as so many are refusing it. He told a couple of other colleagues who live in Bavaria as it has done the same but they prefer to wait for Biontech (as they refer to Pfizer).

Interestingly, he has his second jab booked in for 12 weeks time but they aren’t doing that for Pfizer or Moderna.

It’s a real pity that so many European countries have effectively rubbished AZ to the point that they can barely use up their stocks.
 
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