Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Bluemoon dan said:
Just out of interest, what are peoples thoughts about major events taking place I'm the UK this summer? I'll be honest and say that I just couldn't see any way that restrictions would be lifted on 21st June to allow things like concerts and sporting events to go ahead with full crowds. I thought there'd have to be loads of caveats and restrictions on things that wouldn't allow it but as things get a bit closer I'm now not so sure. I won't go as far as saying I'm optimistic that things will be back to normal by July but from a UK point of view I'm starting to struggle to find reasons why they won't!
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Apart from getting back to City in the autumn, my main measure of a return to normality will be the return to gigs.

I didn't expect to be able to get back in to my usual crowded club-like venues like Gorilla and Gullivers, and I doubted that would happen till the vaccination programme was complete, but I confess I've lost track of the Covid passport saga.

My annual festival of new music (Dorset's End of the Road) takes place in the first week of September, and the blog view seems to be 50/50 that'll go ahead, but it needs a Government insurance scheme for UK festivals this year.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
Just out of interest, what are peoples thoughts about major events taking place I'm the UK this summer? I'll be honest and say that I just couldn't see any way that restrictions would be lifted on 21st June to allow things like concerts and sporting events to go ahead with full crowds. I thought there'd have to be loads of caveats and restrictions on things that wouldn't allow it but as things get a bit closer I'm now not so sure. I won't go as far as saying I'm optimistic that things will be back to normal by July but from a UK point of view I'm starting to struggle to find reasons why they won't!
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I think we're looking in very good shape.

only cause of concern is any new variants and we still don't really know the full outcome of lifting lockdown completely
 
Valneva starting phase 3 trials in Oldham (Open to everyone though) just need to be over 18. Over 30s might be given Valneva or AZ, under 30s will just be given Valneva doses 4 weeks apart.
 
From the ONS.

  • In England, an estimated 7 in 10 adults or 68.3% of the adult population (95% credible interval: 63.9% to 73.0%) would have tested positive for antibodies against the coronavirus – SARS-CoV-2 – on a blood test in the week ending 11 April 2021, suggesting they had the infection in the past or have been vaccinated.

Unfortunately we now have variants so it's not quite as clear cut a result as it once would have been but the worst is behind us now. All we have to do is keep vaccinating, and upgrade the vaccines when necessary.
 
Marvin said:
From the ONS.

  • In England, an estimated 7 in 10 adults or 68.3% of the adult population (95% credible interval: 63.9% to 73.0%) would have tested positive for antibodies against the coronavirus – SARS-CoV-2 – on a blood test in the week ending 11 April 2021, suggesting they had the infection in the past or have been vaccinated.

Unfortunately we now have variants so it's not quite as clear cut a result as it once would have been but the worst is behind us now. All we have to do is keep vaccinating, and upgrade the vaccines when necessary.
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No way do we have variants, you should have mentioned sooner!
 
Bluemoon dan said:
Just out of interest, what are peoples thoughts about major events taking place I'm the UK this summer? I'll be honest and say that I just couldn't see any way that restrictions would be lifted on 21st June to allow things like concerts and sporting events to go ahead with full crowds. I thought there'd have to be loads of caveats and restrictions on things that wouldn't allow it but as things get a bit closer I'm now not so sure. I won't go as far as saying I'm optimistic that things will be back to normal by July but from a UK point of view I'm starting to struggle to find reasons why they won't!
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I doubt any festival organiser will risk bankruptcy by organising a festival they cannot get insurance for in the event of it having to be cancelled due to an upsurge in cases.
 
BBC just announced there will be a Covid briefing at 5 pm tonight.

Not Boris though. He has something else to do today I think.
 
Those anti body numbers are very encouraging but interesting there are big variations across the UK Nations. They also do not seem to be entirely related to the level of vaccination.

But anti bodies will come not just from those vaccinated but also from those who have had Covid - quite often I expect without even knowing it.

And there is no real way now we can see how close this pushes us to herd immunity because of the way mutations are occurring so often thanks to the huge numbers who have been infected.

So hard to know if herd immunity is even a relevant pursuit.

Covid seems endemic and we may have to sit it out for years as it follows typical practice of being more infective but less dangerous - a kind of compromise in the war with the vaccines.

The sooner we get there the better but it is a natural process and hard to know if our unprecedented vaccination programme will skew that normal pattern in a good or bad direction.

This might be effectively over as a serious problem this time next year or a decreasing but continuing serious health problem for a decade.

Hopefully our real experts in here can comment more knowledgeably on these possibilities. Though we are all just making educated guesses.
 
Wales vaccination data:

1, 800, 428 first doses given - 15, 081 today - was 7972 yesterday & 13, 280 last week

715, 425 second doses given - 14, 326 today - was 11, 565 yesterday & 11, 631 last week
 
Healdplace said:
Covid seems endemic and we may have to sit it out for years as it follows typical practice of being more infective but less dangerous - a kind of compromise in the war with the vaccines.
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There doesn't seem to be any consensus in the scientific community that COVID specifically or viruses in general become less deadly over time.

theconversation.com

Will coronavirus really evolve to become less deadly?

The coronavirus is evolving, but which path it will take is far from certain.
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roubaixtuesday said:
There doesn't seem to be any consensus in the scientific community that COVID specifically or viruses in general become less deadly over time.

theconversation.com

Will coronavirus really evolve to become less deadly?

The coronavirus is evolving, but which path it will take is far from certain.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
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Of course, the world has never in the modern scientific age confronted a virus in this phenomenally exhaustive manner before. It is an unprecedented situation where our scientists and medics are writing the history of tomorrow that tomorrow will use to determine the right path to take when it (inevitably) happens again. Though hopefully not for some years.
 
Bit scary to think we might be the dinosaurs trying to find a way to divert that asteroid ushering them to extinction or the tiny mammal burrowed underground who has a degree of natural protection from the looming catastrophe and will by fate inherit the world about to be overturned.

Evolution is usually something we think we are masters over. Forgetting we as humans are only here today because we are not.
 
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