Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BlueAnorak said:
Case increases over recent days im the West Midlands are all down to workplace transmission according to BBC local TV news at lunchtine. A couple of LA public health bods were interviewed and they reckon it's people going back to work in offices mainly.
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Not the hundreds of thousands who have pretty much given up on lockdown and all going in to each others houses ?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Not the hundreds of thousands who have pretty much given up on lockdown and all going in to each others houses ?
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The young family near me had another couple and their two daughters stay for the weekend last week. Four adults and four kids. I would guess that's happening everywhere as you said
 
GM Weekly Pop Data after today:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.



Bolton 57/ 51 / UP 6 Testing positive 9.1%

Trafford 46/ 25 / UP 21 Testing positive 7.0 %

Salford 42 / 33 / UP 9 Testing positive 9.0%

Oldham 38 / 45 DOWN 7 Testing positive 9.8%

Manchester 37 / 49 / DOWN 12 Testing positive 9.6%

Rochdale 34 / 38 / DOWN 4 Testing positive 9.6%

Tameside 30 / 36 DOWN 6 Testing positive 8.1%

Bury 26 / 29 / DOWN 3 Testing positive 9.0%

Wigan 22 / 24 / DOWN 2 Testing positive 8.9%

Stockport 22 / 28 / DOWN 6 Testing positive 7.2%


The lowest three boroughs back to jostling and changing position daily. Stockport and Wigan neck and neck ahead of the county at the moment as they were before Wigan was released from restrictions in July when the rest of GM went in. It is finally back to where it was after that messed them up good and proper for months by importing visitors from other boroughs in GM and Merseyside and East Lancashire. Trafford hopefully will join the scrap soon as it always did before.

Trafford had a better day but hs been climbing in past week or two.

Bolton still looks isolated up top.
 
crooky said:
I'm definitely one who isn't sure. Early 30s and healthy... Surely not that different to someone who is 28/29? I know they have to draw the line somewhere but is 30 the right age?

I'm pretty sure it's higher in most of the other European countries so makes you wary.
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The only reason the AZ vaccine is not in use at the moment for the under 30's is because statistically the threat of COVID is much lower because the chances of catching it and therefore getting ill at the moment are so low.

If COVID cases do pickup again then the vaccine will be put back into use on the basis that for young people many will get ill or even die due to COVID which is far worse.

I'm 32 and I had the AZ vaccine with no problems whatsoever, I'm on my second dose tomorrow and I can't wait to get it over with so I/we can live normally again. Please remember that COVID is far worse and would you take a million chance risk over the 1000x higher risk of getting ill from COVID? I know I would. Either way it's your choice but I'd get whatever vaccine you can.
 
inbetween said:
The only reason the AZ vaccine is not in use at the moment for the under 30's is because statistically the threat of COVID is much lower because the chances of catching it and therefore getting ill at the moment are so low.

If COVID cases do pickup again then the vaccine will be put back into use on the basis that for young people many will get ill or even die due to COVID which is far worse.

I'm 32 and I had the AZ vaccine with no problems whatsoever, I'm on my second dose tomorrow and I can't wait to get it over with so I/we can live normally again. Please remember that COVID is far worse and would you take a million chance risk over the 1000x higher risk of getting ill from COVID? I know I would. Either way it's your choice but I'd get whatever vaccine you can.
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it depends on people’s circumstances too. I’m 31 and not quite eligible for a vaccine yet. My dad and grandad have both died young of blood clots so I am very wary of getting the AZ at the moment. When it’s my turn, I’m going to speak to my GP first for advice
 


Not sure what to make of this? Sounds like people have been trying to make lateral flow tests look inaccurate when in fact they are not.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Not the hundreds of thousands who have pretty much given up on lockdown and all going in to each others houses ?
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Not according to the LA officials.
Test abd trace has worked for over 4 months now. The numbers from superspread events in the workplace far outweigh the numbers from a couple of friends meeting in homes. The stats from the Test and Trace Reports will make interesting reading next week.
For example there were 57 cases confirmed in Selby today mostly down to a workplace superspread event at the Chipperfield warehouse.
www.examinerlive.co.uk

Selby Covid cases will continue to rise after Clipper outbreak

The warehouse confirmed the outbreak two days ago
www.examinerlive.co.uk www.examinerlive.co.uk
 
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crooky said:
I'm definitely one who isn't sure. Early 30s and healthy... Surely not that different to someone who is 28/29? I know they have to draw the line somewhere but is 30 the right age?

I'm pretty sure it's higher in most of the other European countries so makes you wary.
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You're more likely to die in a car crash this year than of blood clots from having the AZ vaccine and if you have the Moderna/Pfizer vaccine you may instead die of Myocardial infraction
But just to say that regularly being in a car as a driver or passenger is the much more dangerous option.
I'll dig out the old ROSPA reports for other more dangerous pursuits because if memory serves putting socks on while standing up is positively lethal and should be avoided at all costs.
 
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Daily vaccinations are beginning to increase this week with 597,000 yesterday. Obviously a large proportion are second doses (mine is on Tuesday) but it looks like supply is improving. In around a month or so the proportion of required second doses will start to decrease so hopefully all remaining groups will get their first doses quickly soon after.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Daily vaccinations are beginning to increase this week with 597,000 yesterday. Obviously a large proportion are second doses (mine is on Tuesday) but it looks like supply is improving. In around a month or so the proportion of required second doses will start to decrease so hopefully all remaining groups will get their first doses quickly soon after.
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I was surprised to read on the BBC just now that 14% of the 18-29 age group have already had the 1st jab here in North Wales.

Covid in Wales: Why are some in their 20s getting a jab first? - BBC News
 
HOSPITAL DATA

Summary:


A smallish fall of 43 today - it was double that at 86 last Thursday. The fall in Wales of 19 helped across the UK. All three other home nations now under 100 patients in each. And two of them in single figure ventilator numbers.

So the UK now has under 1500 in hospital and just over 200 on ventilators, London alone had more than this 5 or 6 weeks ago.

Those Ventilators fell by 10 in England versus 12 last week.


In the England regions only modest falls and North West had no fall at all and ventilators increased by 2. There is a definite stall in the numbers at the moment partly inevitable as numbers are so low. But we need to keep an eye on this trend

The NW was last lower in patients on 11 September - ahead of the national picture. They were last lower on ventilators on 15 September - also ahead of the national numbers.




UK total:


Patients down to 1449 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 37, 799 in 101 days) :- lowest since 20 September

Ventilators down to 209 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3868 in 95 days) : lowest since 21 September


England only:-


ADMISSIONS:-

128 Covid admissions following 108, 107, 99, 124, 92, 126, 98 in the week before. UP 30 week to week as you see. First sign of an admissions uptick. North West though under 20 had its most admitted in past two weeks. But this mat well even up tomorrow.



PATIENTS:-

Patients down by 43 to 1235 v 1523 last week :- lowest since 20 September

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 33, 058 in 101 days)

Ventilators: down 8 to 188 v 237 last week :- lowest since 22 September

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3548 in 95 days)



Regions:


Patient // Ventilators // change in past day to today and v last week


East down 1 to 127 v 170 // down 1 to 14 v 16

London down 14 to 339 v 423 // down 5 to 73 v 91

Midlands down 9 to 232 v 275 // down 1 to 30 v 47

NE & Yorks down 14 to 180 v 243 // down 5 to 18 v 35

North West STAYS at 196 v 236 // UP 2 to 28 v 30

South East UP 1 to 115 v 109 // Stays at 12 v 13

South West down 6 to 46 v 66 // Stays at 3 v 5
 
BlueAnorak said:
You're more likely to die in a car crash this year than of blood clots from having the AZ vaccine and if you have the Moderna/Pfizer vaccine you may instead die of Myocardial infraction
But just to say that regularly being in a car as a driver or passenger is the much more dangerous option.
I'll dig out the old ROSPA reports for other more dangerous pursuits because if memory serves putting socks on while standing up is positively lethal and should be avoided at all costs.
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Indeed and the irony is you are probably more likely to do so in that car or taxi travelling to the airport so as to go on that holiday you want this year.

The holiday that by not having the vaccine you might not be allowed to take but will vociferously argue it was your choice to avoid because it came with too much risk.

Life is risk. The trick is to understand the ones that you can control.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Not according to the LA officials.
Test and trace has worked for over 4 months now.
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It's a shame the media can't give us less vitriolic reporting on Test and Trace. They distort the actual cost (mostly testing) and push the narrative it's a disaster when I've read on here it's been working well this year.

Certainly the ability to keep new Covid cases at or around that magic 2,000 level depends on Test & Trace working effectively.
 
There were 954 deaths in the USA from Covid yesterday and right wing media outlets and GQP politicians continue to spread misinformation about the vaccines. All of those people would be alive today if they'd been vaccinated.

Meanwhile our local mass vaccination site is accepting walk ins because not enough people are scheduling appointments. They were supposed to be open through the end of June but will be closing a month early due to lack of interest. At some point you have to stop feeling sorry for them because they're choosing to die like this.
 
BlueAnorak said:
You're more likely to die in a car crash this year than of blood clots from having the AZ vaccine and if you have the Moderna/Pfizer vaccine you may instead die of Myocardial infraction
But just to say that regularly being in a car as a driver or passenger is the much more dangerous option.
I'll dig out the old ROSPA reports for other more dangerous pursuits because if memory serves putting socks on while standing up is positively lethal and should be avoided at all costs.
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The difference is though that I need to drive to get to work, go to nice places etc. I don't need a vaccine in the same way.

Not great news on the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines as well but good that this info is coming out so people get the full picture. They were the safe bets vs the AZ. Shows that you need to wait a good 6 months after approval before you know what side effects they really have on all age groups. Thankfully they are seemingly very low risk at the moment in the general population but a tiny bit sketchy for the 18-35s.
 
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