Coronavirus (2021) thread

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davealvers said:
Some of you lot seriously have Stockholm syndrome.

Chastising people for aspiring for a normal life. Give me strength.
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No problem with well placed optimism. I’d love for this to all go away. What I’m not keen on is the misguided declaration of “freedom day” which some will see as an end to the pandemic. As if the politicians have had a sit down meeting with the virus and agreed a ceasefire as of the 21st and it’s open season on licking door handles.
 
bluethrunthru said:
You see them on vox pops on TV news - I have seen them saying it around the town where I live - its said on Twitter - some people think its an antidote - they also mostly believe in "Freedom Day" as a concept. Whether restrictions are lifted or not on the 21st I think they will find the 22nd onwards pretty disappointing - Lockdown will be recommended at the end of September and Johnson will leap into action by November.......
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Is this what you hope or what you think ? U sound like youd be disappointed if 21st went ahead
 
davealvers said:
Some of you lot seriously have Stockholm syndrome.

Demonising people for aspiring for a normal life. Give me strength.
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It's ridiculous. I seem to remember being told once the vulnerable were vaccinated, then once a certain percentage of the population was vaccinated normality would resume. I think this is about the fourth variant of the virus we have had and once the hysteria dies down we're told it's no more deadly and/or the vaccine works well against it. Pubs, restaurants, shops are open and some fan's are allowed back into sporting events. Anyone who has ventured to any of these know social distancing has never really been adhered to in any of these places, masks a bit hit and miss. In short it's been freedom Day for quite a while now. The world cannot stay locked down forever. Those that want to have the choice to stay at home as long as they wish. Aside from work and shopping everything else is voluntary. Stay home if you don't feel safe.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I think it’s fair for those lucky enough to be double jabbed to feel a level of comfort and safety in so being.

I have been double jabbed and it does give me greater confidence. Isn’t that the point Of it?

yes, I can still get it but hopefully if what they claim it should keep me out of hospital and others being jabbed or not can assess their own protection around others.

I don’t think calling people bell ends for trying to get back to a normalish life when double jabbed and feeling safer and socialising again is really a fair comment.

that’s the point of the vaccine programme.
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The first thing that goes is protection against transmission, then mild illness, then severe illness etc hence you could argue masks might be getting even more important especially if you're visiting elderly people.

Imo risks of asymptomatic transmission have shot up since the Indian variant made its appearance because of its effect on the vaccine.
 
Marvin said:
The first thing that goes is protection against transmission, then mild illness, then severe illness etc hence you could argue masks might be getting even more important especially if you're visiting elderly people.

Imo risks of asymptomatic transmission have shot up since the Indian variant made its appearance because of its effect on the vaccine.
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Variant fetishist
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Isn't that exactly postponing it, or have I missed something here?



If he really said that, he's an idiot, as his own scientific advisors say the opposite. This is exactly what happened at Christmas, govt painted themselves into a corner, felt obliged not to retreat, then the virus forced them to by killing so many people they had no option. Groundhog day.
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Well number restrictions vanish on weddings etc. No mention of social distancing either except in pubs / restaurants.
 
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uweblue said:
Mad question if they had to do another lockdown, I just don't think anyone would do it anymore, I don't think there would be a compliance for another lockdown.

I think the nation as a whole has given up on that idea, this is why I can't see it being too long before we open up. No one wants it anymore,
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I think there is the bare minimum of compliance now.
 
paulchapo said:
It's ridiculous. I seem to remember being told once the vulnerable were vaccinated, then once a certain percentage of the population was vaccinated normality would resume. I think this is about the fourth variant of the virus we have had and once the hysteria dies down we're told it's no more deadly and/or the vaccine works well against it. Pubs, restaurants, shops are open and some fan's are allowed back into sporting events. Anyone who has ventured to any of these know social distancing has never really been adhered to in any of these places, masks a bit hit and miss. In short it's been freedom Day for quite a while now. The world cannot stay locked down forever. Those that want to have the choice to stay at home as long as they wish. Aside from work and shopping everything else is voluntary. Stay home if you don't feel safe.
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Correct and irrespective as to what people think the government have moved the goalposts from vaccinate the vulnerable to vaccinate everyone to vaccinate kids to the next one coming vaccinate The world
 
bluethrunthru said:
You see them on vox pops on TV news - I have seen them saying it around the town where I live - its said on Twitter - some people think its an antidote - they also mostly believe in "Freedom Day" as a concept. Whether restrictions are lifted or not on the 21st I think they will find the 22nd onwards pretty disappointing - Lockdown will be recommended at the end of September and Johnson will leap into action by November.......
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Don't agree
 
BlueAnorak said:
I think there is the bare minimum of compliance now.
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thats not just joe public the shops supermarkets and pubs are doing the bare minimum now, if anything.

masks are worn around the chin, people wear neckerchiefs or scarfs and pull it up when need to to show willing but it will do fuck all For Covid transmission.
 


Find it really interesting that Delta isn't yet showing signs of spread throughout much of Europe. I know we sequence more than the rest, but cases are still on the decline throughout much of mainland Europe when you'd maybe expect some signs by now that Delta is beginning to take hold. Not that I'd want it to, just interested in the reasons why it's not (yet).
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
thats not just joe public the shops supermarkets and pubs are doing the bare minimum now, if anything.

masks are worn around the chin, people wear neckerchiefs or scarfs and pull it up when need to to show willing but it will do fuck all For Covid transmission.
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I met my dad and his mates in the Wetherspoons in Stockport yesterday. They were strict on some things but not on others. 4 of us turned up at the same time and got a table. When the fifth person turned up a few minutes later, they wouldn’t let him move a chair from another table to ours: “We’re not allowed to move furniture around”. So they allowed us to move to another table that seats six. However, a fair few people were walking round the pub without their masks on and they weren’t challenged by the staff (yet under no circumstances could we pull a chair up from a vacant table!).

Drinks were table service only of course but the service at times was shocking, considering it was relatively quiet. After one order went in, we waited about 15 minutes and eventually spotted our drinks at the end of the bar on a tray. How long they’d been there I’ve no idea but none of the staff seemed in a rush to bring them over to us. In the end, my dad’s mate had had enough and bowled over to collect them himself - wearing his mask of course - and brought them over. Nobody said anything but then again I’m not sure anybody spotted him. However, you’d have thought that someone would’ve eventually wondered where our drinks had gone but they didn’t. Thinking about it, any fucker from another table could’ve had them away from the end of the bar!
 
M18CTID said:
I met my dad and his mates in the Wetherspoons in Stockport yesterday. They were strict on some things but not on others. 4 of us turned up at the same time and got a table. When the fifth person turned up a few minutes later, they wouldn’t let him move a chair from another table to ours: “We’re not allowed to move furniture around”. So they allowed us to move to another table that seats six. However, a fair few people were walking round the pub without their masks on and they weren’t challenged by the staff (yet under no circumstances could we pull a chair up from a vacant table!).

Drinks were table service only of course but the service at times was shocking, considering it was relatively quiet. After one order went in, we waited about 15 minutes and eventually spotted our drinks at the end of the bar on a tray. How long they’d been there I’ve no idea but none of the staff seemed in a rush to bring them over to us. In the end, my dad’s mate had had enough and bowled over to collect them himself - wearing his mask of course - and brought them over. Nobody said anything but then again I’m not sure anybody spotted him. However, you’d have thought that someone would’ve eventually wondered where our drinks had gone but they didn’t. Thinking about it, any fucker from another table could’ve had them away from the end of the bar!
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marcus said:
Is this what you hope or what you think ? U sound like youd be disappointed if 21st went ahead
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whenever it happens I want it to do so with the lowest risk to UK citizens thats all. I am afraid that people will find "Freedom Day" brings limited change. And those who are so anti vaccine passport are likely to be disappointed if they think just because our govt removes restrictions on international travel
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
The fact you’re providing figures to show there are people in hospital who’ve had the vaccine shows that your statement of “Every single case of the current hospitalisations haven't had a jab” was incorrect.
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News at 10 has just said there's been 12,500 cases of the delta variant of which only 3 people who've had two jabs required hospital treatment. So there you go. Do you require more proof??? What I've said is true on all counts. This delta variant is not denting the vaccines at all and at the time I wrote that quote every single case of the hospitalisations hadn't had two jabs.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Nah mate, no apology needed, they're extremely effective. Remarkable actually and 2 doses in particular are where we need to get to. We really need everyone to get vaccinated as quickly as possible and I can't wait to get my first dose in a couple of weeks time.

I'm only correcting Berkshire blue that the variants haven't had any impact on them (which they have), and that nobody is in hospital who's had the vaccine (which they are, even if low numbers), that was all.
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You might want to watch the news at ten and then apologise to me for getting your facts wrong
 
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