Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths today a little cocerning

16 with 9 from the North West.

12 in the last 48 hours and 7 yesterday. These are the highest daily numbers in a while.
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do they publish the ages of the deaths and if they have had either the 1st or 2nd vaccine Anywhere?
 
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Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths today a little cocerning

16 with 9 from the North West.

12 in the last 48 hours and 7 yesterday. These are the highest daily numbers in a while.
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not good. Really hope the deaths don't keep going up..
 
@Healdplace , what do you know about Cornwall? Local radio saying we're heading towards the highest in the country after half term holidays closely followed by the G7 summit.
 
Manchester33 said:
What you're saying is true, but it still shouldn't be taken lightly. I can't even imagine how upsetting it would be to lose a child, never mind losing them to a vaccine that you decided they should have.

My point is that I can really sympathise with parents who are reluctant to have their kids vaccinated (at this point in time without more research/evidence about the side effects in children).
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Kids won’t be vaccinated, end of.
 
Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths today a little concerning

16 with 9 from the North West.

13 in the last 72 hours and 7 and 5 added in the first of those days. These are the highest daily numbers in a while.

Cases now starting to work their way into deaths in the NW as sadly expected.

This is now almost ce rtainly going to see weekly deaths rise in England hospitals for the third week running and at present is significantly larger than the past 2 weeks at this stage when numbers rose.

Hopefully this is just the blip in the NW we had to expect given weeks of big case numbers in the region and the big ris4s in patient numbers and ventiulators over the last 10 days were bound to translate into more deaths unfortunately.

3 of the 9 were in East Lancashire, 3 were in Lancashire and the other 3 one each in Manchester, Wigan and Bolton.

Last week the number was 6 with 1 and wk before 12 with 3 - this is actually the highest Thursday number in England hospitals for 2 months.

They were nearly all over 60 by the way. So presumably mostly vaccinated. Though they may not have been, of course.
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Or they might be vaccinated and the main cause of death not actually Covid, in some cases.
 
unicorn said:
Or they might be vaccinated and the main cause of death not actually Covid, in some cases.
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Indeed. If you accept that the vaccine doesn’t stop you catching it but hugely reduces its effects, if we keep testing all hospital patients, regardless of why they’ve been admitted, the deaths in hospital will always exist. I think the NHS have been asked to produce separate figures for ’with’ and ‘from’, which would probably put this current situation into context, but I’ve certainly not seen any evidence that they've done that, as of yet anyway.
 
Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths today a little concerning

16 with 9 from the North West.

13 in the last 72 hours and 7 and 5 added in the first of those days. These are the highest daily numbers in a while.

Cases now starting to work their way into deaths in the NW as sadly expected.

This is now almost ce rtainly going to see weekly deaths rise in England hospitals for the third week running and at present is significantly larger than the past 2 weeks at this stage when numbers rose.

Hopefully this is just the blip in the NW we had to expect given weeks of big case numbers in the region and the big ris4s in patient numbers and ventiulators over the last 10 days were bound to translate into more deaths unfortunately.

3 of the 9 were in East Lancashire, 3 were in Lancashire and the other 3 one each in Manchester, Wigan and Bolton.

Last week the number was 6 with 1 and wk before 12 with 3 - this is actually the highest Thursday number in England hospitals for 2 months.

They were nearly all over 60 by the way. So presumably mostly vaccinated. Though they may not have been, of course.
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This is probably going to come across badly but there has to be a point where 16 people dying out of 60 odd million people isn't an issue whatsoever, I know deaths are the last thing to rise and they can go quickly as we've seen but to be worried/concerned about it would lead to the scenario where # amount of deaths is too many.

If we're led to believe that we'll probably have to live with this in some form or another for the foreseeable future then it'll have to stop at some point no?

I'm not having a go at you btw and appreciate the effort you've put in to these threads.
 
grunge said:
Link?

Id actually hazard a guess there are very very few people in 60-79 bracket that dont have some sort of pre existing condition mind you :)
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Statistics » COVID-19 Daily Deaths

Health and high quality care for all, <br />now and for future generations
www.england.nhs.uk www.england.nhs.uk

hey have you done the maths on the potential deaths yet? I might have some time at the weekend to spend on it?
 
BerkshireBlue said:

Statistics » COVID-19 Daily Deaths

Health and high quality care for all, <br />now and for future generations
www.england.nhs.uk www.england.nhs.uk

hey have you done the maths on the potential deaths yet? I might have some time at the weekend to spend on it?
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Nope, fraid not, we're getting blitzed work wise at the mo. can spare a few mins here and there on here when compiling some code but thats about it.
 
True_Blue69 said:
It wasn’t here where I read it, but this is the same story.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/...arebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar

Something isn’t right with either our data on India’s.
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Clearly it’s all about how you look at that. Those 12 deaths came from tens of thousands of cases. Some people who are double vaccinated could still be very ill (terminally) and also have caught Covid. Being double vaccinated doesn’t cure all ills I guess.
 
Tonster said:
Clearly it’s all about how you look at that. Those 12 deaths came from tens of thousands of cases. Some people who are double vaccinated could still be very ill (terminally) and also have caught Covid. Being double vaccinated doesn’t cure all ills I guess.
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The point is it was 12 from 38 total deaths or whatever it was. So almost a 3rd of all delta variant deaths were double jabbed.
 
True_Blue69 said:
So why have we still got any restrictions?
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This lockdown extension is going to cost the country roughly £30 billion fag packet analysis but it will be in that region. So there's going to have to be a huge number of deaths to justify it and quite frankly there just won't be. They could have opened up and funnelled half of that £30 billion into the NHS instead to cope over the summer period instead
 
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