Coronavirus (2021) thread

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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Safety first? Don’t get in your car, you’ll never crash. Don’t drink booze, eat bad food or smoke and there’s a very good chance cancer won‘t get you.

As for lockdowns, we know that complete lockdown probably moves the peak of the virus further into the future. We also know they cause economic devastation which will only manifest itself in years of ill health to come. Now, if we were fighting a single disease with a huge mortality rate that, following lockdown would be over with, they might be a good idea, but only if that was the single Public Health issue we had to deal with.
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On p3657 I said what my part of Spain have done in another person's reply to my post.

Do you think this was unnecessary?
 
209 all settings deaths

37, 489 cases - 27, 545 from England

England cases up 343 on yesterday - which was up 180 on the day before.

Week to week England up 6578 v up 5878 day before & up 4521 day before.

The week to week rise in England is slowing climbing day by day.
 
1, 335, 485 pillar 1 & 2 tests today - most in quite some time,

Up 304,000 on yesterday and up 678,000 on last week.

So as you see a HUGE number of extra tests - likely many school related.

So the positivity rate very possibly is falling.
 
Cotton Weave Blue said:
Got me. Felt rough Sunday. PCR yesterday and just got the result this morning. Brilliant service has to be said.

Isolation now till next Wednesday, thank god City are away on Saturday!!
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Good luck mate. Mine lasted about two weeks. Three nights of sweats and headaches then very tired for about eight days but now much better.
 
Some very big rises in the North West today. Probably a lot of them school related.

GM though does OK - certainly not more than its recent low share of the percentage.

NORTH WEST up day to day by 1046 to 4506 - highest NW total in 6 or 7 weeks.

GM rises by 359 of that number to 1613 - most in GM since third week of July. Which is in keeping with its low to mid 30s% of the split recently. A bit better than expectations.

Week to Week NW is up from 3186 to 4506 - an even bigger rise of 1320.

GM is up 414 of those from 1199 to 1616. Which is not much over 30% - well below expectations by population. Which is again good with such a big increase.

As you would expect still some hefty week to week rises in GM boroughs.

Not one borough under 100. And Wigan over 200. Closest to Manchester.

Only one borough was down week to week - most were up by a fair chunk.

The only faller was Stockport. Continuing its run of better numbers.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Nobody chose to be on furlough, you sure on that. When I went away in the UK this year half the places couldn't fully open as they couldn't get staff, the reason everywhere was giving was that people were furloughed so didn't want to work. I know people that were furloughed and have had the time of their lives the past year. Granted there were a lot who would have been massively stressed will bills and family commitments, but to a lot it has been one long holiday. Why else would so many people be wishing further lockdowns.
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It's a fair point. There was quite a lot of "double bubble" in my area with some people collecting furlough while they did second jobs mostly driving, delivering, building, and farm work. Personally I had no problem with this because it keeps money circulating in the economy and a lot of these youngsters are paid pretty badly in the first place.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Nobody chose to be on furlough, you sure on that. When I went away in the UK this year half the places couldn't fully open as they couldn't get staff, the reason everywhere was giving was that people were furloughed so didn't want to work. I know people that were furloughed and have had the time of their lives the past year. Granted there were a lot who would have been massively stressed will bills and family commitments, but to a lot it has been one long holiday. Why else would so many people be wishing further lockdowns.
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Seems a strange comment. if a café/restaurant furloughed staff then they recall that staff when the work starts up again, the staff cant just say no I dont want to come back, keep me on furlough!.

if they cant hire staff to fill there spots then thats probably more down to Brexit then Furlough.

there may still be places in inner cities that are struggling to open due to lack of customers due to remote / furlough. is that what your meaning?
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA


ADMISSIONS - THESE ARE FROM SUNDAY (48 hours old)



LAST SUN // THIS SUNDAY

701 // 691

Down 10 week to week.


By regions (LAST SUNDAY V THIS SUNDAY) :-


LONDON 116 V 100

MIDLANDS 145 V 124

NE & YORKSHIRE 126 V 158



AND

NORTH WEST 90 V 109


So NW admitted one of the least of the four big regions again (though London has overtaken it) BUT has slightly risen week to week - as has Yorkshire.

London in all the data cases, Zoe and now hospital numbers has been the big winner over the past two weeks. Seems to be falling.

Midlands has also started to do better.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



PATIENTS

THIS DATA IS FOR TODAY

6244 - DOWN 131 ON THE DAY



Last week the equivalent numbers were

6293 - UP 291 FROM 6002


UNEXPECTEDLY THIS MEANS THAT WEEK TO WEEK PATIENTS HAVE FALLEN BY 49 FOR FIRST TIME IN A WHILE


FROM 6293 TO 6244


LAST WEEK WEEKLY RISE WAS 6000 - 6002 - RISE OF 2


Numbers are starting to grow a little week to week


GOOD NEWS AS THIS IS IT IS VERY REGIONALLY SPLIT AS YOU WILL SEE:-






BY REGIONS

Today - Up/down on day V last week


LONDON 1211 - UP 34 V 1255 DOWN 44 WK TO WK

MIDLANDS 1145 - DOWN 98 V 1174 / 1280 DOWN 135 WK TO WK

NE & YORKSHIRE 1175 - DOWN 38 V 1158 UP 17 WK TO WK


AND


NORTH WEST 967 - UP 1 V 949 UP 18 WK TO WK


YORKSHIRE AND THE NORTH WEST EDGING UP A TINY BIT BUT LONDON AND MIDLANDS ARE THE BIG FACTORS IN THE PATIENT FALL TODAY.



The other smaller regions week to week

East 547 to 547 today - DOWN 4 ON DAY V LEVEL WK TO WK

South East 620 to 697 today - DOWN 7 ON DAY V UP 77 WK TO WK

And South West up from 479 to 482 today - DOWN 39 ON DAY V UP 3 WK TO WK
 
bluemc1 said:
because some on here say “ good “ when someone who refused the vax dies

fuckin bellends I know but it happens
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Not seen any of that. The person you were responding to wasn't talking about anyone that says good that someone that refused the vaccine has died either.
It was in reference to someone that had died that believed that covid was a hoax and organized anti, mask, vaccine and covid restriction rallies in Texas. In other words, a fucking bellend.
 
Barcon said:
Not seen any of that. The person you were responding to wasn't talking about anyone that says good that someone that refused the vaccine has died either.
It was in reference to someone that had died that believed that covid was a hoax and organized anti, mask, vaccine and covid restriction rallies in Texas. In other words, a fucking bellend.
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didnt deserve to die though
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



VENTILATORS


THIS DATA IS FOR TODAY



DOWN 24 FROM 909 TO 885



Last week the same days were:

UP 20 FROM 859 TO 879



UP 6 week to week 879 - 885


PREVIOUS WEEK UP 22 FROM 855 TO 879





By regions (TODAY V LAST WEEK) :-


LONDON 229 (DOWN 8 TODAY V 223- UP 6 in week

MIDLANDS 155 (DOWN 13 TODAY) V 182 - DOWN 27 in week

NE & YORKSHIRE 151 (UP 4 TODAY V 133 - UP 18 in week



AND

NORTH WEST 119 (UP 3 TODAY) V 119 - LEVEL




The other regions LAST WEEK V TODAY

East UP 2 FROM 79 TO 81 - DOWN 6 TODAY

South East UP 1 FROM 84 TO 85 - DOWN 12 TODAY

And South West UP 6 FROM 59 TO 65 - DOWN 2 TODAY


The NW and Yorkshire the only regions not with substantial falls in ventilators

But then Midlands and London reported a lot of hospital deaths today compared with the NW which very likely was part of the reason why.
 
He had a choice to receive or reject the vaccine
Thousands have died from the disease before the vaccine was introduced, they had no choice.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Here in Southern Spain we suffered along with Italy the worst loss of life imaginable of our older community.
Currently all except remainder of 0 to 12 kids (and are due back to school in 2 weeks) have been veccinated and 0 to 60 are able to get a booster jab on application at their local medical surgery.
Whilst there is no guarrentee that this is sufficient, has Spain been over the top in its desire to protect people generally?
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It doesn’t sound like they have. Why do you ask? Do you think I have implied they have?

I have not addressed a specific country other than America, which unfortunately has tens of millions of people who follow an Orange Idiot. He has them convinced that Govt is good for nothing, even though he was in charge of it for 4 years. Now, everything Govt does is bad, even their ability to count votes in an election, apparently!

The Govt distrust that has been fomented by the Orange Idiot has got to the point that when, at his own rally in front of thousands of his own supporters, he asserts (quite rightly) that people should get vaxxed, he was roundly booed!

The guy was so good at the easy part (“everything except me is bad!”) that even he can’t do the hard part of changing stupid minds!
 
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