That is very interesting, thank you, though I have read something similar before, regarding the T-cells and that antibodies are only half the story. Decisions decisions....right now I'm inclined to postpone my booster and re-evaluate, perhaps after Christmas.You may find this of interest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59207466
You may find this of interest: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59207466
In short, I'm wondering whether I'm naturally immune and that taking a vaccine that may prove unecessary is a potential risk that could be avoided.
I'm suggesting there may be a possible natural immunity, due to a major outbreak occuring at work and my being in close proximity to infected colleagues for subtantial amounts of time in December 2020, 3 months prior to my first jab.Well, everyone is naturally immune to a degree - the virus doesn't kill everyone exposed to it. And exposure is a matter of risk, not certainty.
The risks of the vaccines are vanishingly low, and more immunity is better, regardless as to where on the scale you are. Getting the jab is a no-brainer from any quantitative assessment of risks.
Emotional assessment of risks leads to different conclusions for some.
[Edit, just saw your earlier post that you're already jabbed, so I'm not sure where natural immunity fits it to this. But the booster is a no-brainer - it reduced risk by 95% over and above being already double jabbed ]
Whatever you do, don’t tell anyone at The Sun or they will have a photographer round there in no tim……City can’t fill testing site exclusive!I went for my booster at the Etihad yesterday, it looked like nobody other than staff were in the Covid-19 testing site, when i was going back to my car I asked a security guard is it normally this quite in the morning it was 10.30am, he said its been quite for weeks, good to see the Vaccine site was very busy
Yes, what makes it harder for me to decide, is the fact that I was exposed to the virus quite regularly (as many of us will have been) as I worked through all the lockdowns and a lot of staff (from all over the NW) were diagnosed with it, particularly just prior to Christmas. Early in the first lockdown my colleagues and I were very very careful, but with time and only one person having to go to hospital, so far, mask wearing and social distancing was very much reduced. I'm aware that one person going to hospital is clearly not to be dismissed, but he is back at work and fine now.
Nobody actually wears them at work now, as they get in the way and can be uncomfortable when working 12 hour shifts, I don't work in care by the way.
Where I work we have regular LFTs and I have never been diagnosed with it, though many have, this may be luck of course, but it is a little odd.
Further information, both my unvaxxed daughters, both mums, have had it, eldest had what she described as similar to a very heavy flu and thought she was dying - the rest of her household, no symptoms and youngest had nothing more than a short period of lack of taste and smell, her partner had the same, but came back negative each and every PCR test. (3 in total)
In short, I'm wondering whether I'm naturally immune and that taking a vaccine that may prove unecessary is a potential risk that could be avoided.
If you’ve had 2 vaccines what is it that strikes you as being particularly risky about the booster?That is very interesting, thank you, though I have read something similar before, regarding the T-cells and that antibodies are only half the story. Decisions decisions....right now I'm inclined to postpone my booster and re-evaluate, perhaps after Christmas.
For me, it’s because it’s Pfizer this time and was AZ before.If you’ve had 2 vaccines what is it that strikes you as being particularly risky about the booster?
Yeah can see that. The evidence about boosters is generally positive with Moderna looking like a particularly good 3rd shot. I suppose instinctively mixing and matching causes some worries but there isn’t anything intrinsically concerning in terms of additional risk emerging from the studies I’ve read.For me, it’s because it’s Pfizer this time and was AZ before.
I’ve never had an MRNA vaccine before.
I’ll probably be fine, but...
We’ll find out on the 27th.
Kind of. I had a massive reaction to anti-tetanus when I was a child. I know it’s nothing to do with this, but makes me slightly nervous.Yeah can see that. The evidence about boosters is generally positive with Moderna looking like a particularly good 3rd shot. I suppose instinctively mixing and matching causes some worries but there isn’t anything intrinsically concerning in terms of additional risk emerging from the studies I’ve read.
dunno if that is any way reassuring?!?
I had moderna for my double jab shots. First one was fine, 2nd one I had a big red mark in my arm for a couple of days but nowt else
There was a thread a few months ago about a geezer who was reluctant to get his. I think it related to scooby doo somehow!Kind of. I had a massive reaction to anti-tetanus when I was a child. I know it’s nothing to do with this, but makes me slightly nervous.
Every decision we make has an element of risk to it.
I look after my 94 year old grandma, who’s having hers at the same time.
I’ll have the shot anyway as I believe it’s the right thing to do.
It’s pretty much my view too.There was a thread a few months ago about a geezer who was reluctant to get his. I think it related to scooby doo somehow!
having concerns and worries is totally rational and I think that’s underplayed and not well understood
always suggest reading up on your options and making best decision for you. My reading of what’s out there shows that vaccination wins out risk wise versus other options, but just my opinion
Great attitude mate.It’s pretty much my view too.
Vaccines are always the way out of major viruses/diseases.
It’s not just about me, so will do what I should do for my grandma and society as a whole.
I got Covid a fortnight ago and it was the worst bout of illness I have ever had and that's despite being vaccinated twice. I have my booster next week. I am a little wary of getting the booster because I think I might generate a very strong immune reaction to it having only just recovered from it but getting vaccinated is the only way out.
4 weeks.Don’t they say you shouldn’t have it for a period after having the virus? Sure it’s a few months
Think many eyes are going to be on Austria in the coming weeks. The Dutch government is also contemplating following suit with the 2G system, though it knows it won’t be popular.Denmark has reintroduced its digital pass and is again considering COVID-19 to be "a socially critical disease" as the Scandinavian country experiences a surge in case
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Austria is just "days" away from placing millions of people who are not fully-vaccinated against coronavirus into lockdown, as daily infections are at a record high, the country's chancellor has said.
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The Netherlands will impose a partial lockdown this weekend in a bid to stop a surge in COVID-19 cases, Dutch broadcaster NOS reported this morning.
Bars, restaurants and non-essential shops will be ordered to close by 7pm for at least three weeks starting Saturday - marking the first lockdown in western Europe since the summer.
Home-working will be encouraged as much as possible, and no audiences will be allowed at sporting events.