Another example of stupidity - was in a restaurant on Saturday night here in Portugal and the Benfica - Belenenses game was showing there but no volume - half time I see it's 7-0 to Benfica and I said to my lad that there's a 10-1 on the cards here and told him all about the Huddersfield game back in the day.
Transpires -
Reuters report that the new variant was found after Belenenses played a Primeira Liga match against Benfica on Saturday.
The game started with only nine Belenenses players on the pitch because the rest of their squad were isolating and only seven returned to the field after halftime. The match was abandoned two minutes into the second half with Benfica leading 7-0.
You couldn't make this shit up, who on earth thought it was a good idea to start a game of football in the first place with one team starting with 9 players due to covid! then transpires 13 cases of the new Omicron variant discovered in the team after they were all tested.
Lockdowns led to reduced quality of education for our kids, which in turn will lead to reduced long term prospects for some (most likely the most disadvantaged). They led to cancelled or delayed tests and treatment for cancer and other critical diseases, which will inevitably lead to an increase in what would have been preventable deaths. Reduced access to non-critical health services leading to an increase in depressions and long term mental health issues. Devastation of massive swathes of the economy leading to a massive increase in the debt, which in term restricts the scope for increases in government spending and/or tax rises to fund it. Devastation of the tourist and hospitality sectors. Increase in suicides and domestic abuse. Probable increase in child abuse since the main avenue for detecting this abuse is schools, I've not seen any analysis of the third world impacts of first world lockdowns but these should also be factored in. There needs to be an independent public enquiry to get to the bottom of the impacts of these interventions, so that people understand the costs as well as the benefits.
far out weighing the one disease ! its like nothing else matters anymore!Lockdowns led to reduced quality of education for our kids, which in turn will lead to reduced long term prospects for some (most likely the most disadvantaged). They led to cancelled or delayed tests and treatment for cancer and other critical diseases, which will inevitably lead to an increase in what would have been preventable deaths. Reduced access to non-critical health services leading to an increase in depressions and long term mental health issues. Devastation of massive swathes of the economy leading to a massive increase in the debt, which in term restricts the scope for increases in government spending and/or tax rises to fund it. Devastation of the tourist and hospitality sectors. Increase in suicides and domestic abuse. Probable increase in child abuse since the main avenue for detecting this abuse is schools, I've not seen any analysis of the third world impacts of first world lockdowns but these should also be factored in. There needs to be an independent public enquiry to get to the bottom of the impacts of these interventions, so that people understand the costs as well as the benefits.
Hope we get a bit of working from home next couple of weeks - am knackered and ready for xmas!
i think people are more bothered about how far the gov will take it from mask wearing and then what comes next! its not made a jot in scotland and wales as their case figures are worse than england ! if people want to wear masks they should get ones that actually protect themselves instead of the paper ones that litter the pavements up and down the country!
I was getting looked at like I had two heads with mine on. I'd say less than 1% are wearing at the game.I saw more masks than usual at the game yesterday. Good that more people are taking precautions. Also kept my face nice and warm in the cold!
Getting mine on Friday, had my flu jab on Saturday and feel crap today.Getting my booster jab tomorrow at noon, the Pfizer one apparently. Being done at the local chemist. Sorry, pharmacy.
Could have gone the Swedish route, who have fared much worse both economically and health wise than their comparable neighbours who had lock downs.Lockdowns led to reduced quality of education for our kids, which in turn will lead to reduced long term prospects for some (most likely the most disadvantaged). They led to cancelled or delayed tests and treatment for cancer and other critical diseases, which will inevitably lead to an increase in what would have been preventable deaths. Reduced access to non-critical health services leading to an increase in depressions and long term mental health issues. Devastation of massive swathes of the economy leading to a massive increase in the debt, which in term restricts the scope for increases in government spending and/or tax rises to fund it. Devastation of the tourist and hospitality sectors. Increase in suicides and domestic abuse. Probable increase in child abuse since the main avenue for detecting this abuse is schools, I've not seen any analysis of the third world impacts of first world lockdowns but these should also be factored in. There needs to be an independent public enquiry to get to the bottom of the impacts of these interventions, so that people understand the costs as well as the benefits.
far out weighing the one disease ! its like nothing else matters anymore!
You have to put yourself in the risk management corner and ask yourself would you personally sign off on keeping relaxed rules whilst a new and more infectious variant is doing the rounds? The government got caught with its pants down this time last year and the hospitals were battered whilst tens of thousands died so they're very unlikely to risk it again.far out weighing the one disease ! its like nothing else matters anymore!
I agree there needs to be an independent public inquiry but had it not been for the lockdowns out NHS would have collapsed and that would have been far, far more detrimental to our society than all the factors you list. I think our government are a shambles and they've made many bad decisions (mainly not locking down quickly enough), but essentially every country on the planet adhered to some type of lockdown which is telling.Lockdowns led to reduced quality of education for our kids, which in turn will lead to reduced long term prospects for some (most likely the most disadvantaged). They led to cancelled or delayed tests and treatment for cancer and other critical diseases, which will inevitably lead to an increase in what would have been preventable deaths. Reduced access to non-critical health services leading to an increase in depressions and long term mental health issues. Devastation of massive swathes of the economy leading to a massive increase in the debt, which in term restricts the scope for increases in government spending and/or tax rises to fund it. Devastation of the tourist and hospitality sectors. Increase in suicides and domestic abuse. Probable increase in child abuse since the main avenue for detecting this abuse is schools, I've not seen any analysis of the third world impacts of first world lockdowns but these should also be factored in. There needs to be an independent public enquiry to get to the bottom of the impacts of these interventions, so that people understand the costs as well as the benefits.
Which will certainly help out the NHS…its not up to him anymore. its mandated they need to be fully vaccinated before spring.. that includes the 12 week gap.
I guess his different path will be a different job.
Which will certainly help out the NHS…
I’ve asked a few on here but I’ll give up you a go as well. Imagine you were at the football and, like the bloke at Newcastle the other week, you need CPR. The only doctor available is the ITU doctor you mentioned who’s just been sacked. As he approaches to save your life, will you hand him a form, or ask one of your mates to check, that he’s vaccinated and, if not, tell him that he’s to leave you to die?
Who is requesting lockdowns?The thing I don't get is why so many people are behaving as if we are back in March 2020 and the whole thing is starting again and that omicron is a totally new virus. We are in a totally different situation to that of March 2020 and indeed Winter 2020/21. There will be variants forevermore and so those demanding restrictions and lockdown need to realise what it is they are asking for. To demand a lockdown 'just in case' shows how people have lost all proportion and have become unable to view the world outside of preventing covid infections. You can't just switch society on and off every few months ad infinitum.
I think most reasonable people accept that the first lockdown was unavoidable and justified given where we were at the time, as was the winter one despite how depressing it was for everyone. However, is is not a permanent strategy and once we have high vax and natural immunity levels we really must get on with it and get ourselves out of this cycle of fear and hysteria (the media has a lot to answer for). Omicron is not a totally new virus, it is a variant of a virus we've been dealing with for two years and so far the vaccines have held up well and there is no reason to assume they are now going to be hopeless. Even when Delta hit, vaccination levels were much lower than now.
As always, the quotes from the scientists are that this 'could' be more transmissible and 'may' have a greater ability to evade vaccines but it's clear no one actually knows. Every year the flu has a new strain and the flu vaccine is the scientists' best guess at the variant of the season. Time will tell but the reality is it's already here and probably has been for a while.
Sturgeon demanding that all travellers isolate is not going to make a blind bit of difference if it's already here and is more competitive than delta. Of course she knows it's a hysterical demand but she's only saying that so she can stoke up resentment to Westminster and claim that only independence will allow her voice to rule the roost.
Bringing forward boosters is sensible and is the best thing citizens can do to do their bit.
You have to question the intelligence of NHS staff not getting vaccinated though, don't you?Which will certainly help out the NHS…
I’ve asked a few on here but I’ll give up you a go as well. Imagine you were at the football and, like the bloke at Newcastle the other week, you need CPR. The only doctor available is the ITU doctor you mentioned who’s just been sacked. As he approaches to save your life, will you hand him a form, or ask one of your mates to check, that he’s vaccinated and, if not, tell him that he’s to leave you to die?
Which will certainly help out the NHS…
I’ve asked a few on here but I’ll give up you a go as well. Imagine you were at the football and, like the bloke at Newcastle the other week, you need CPR. The only doctor available is the ITU doctor you mentioned who’s just been sacked. As he approaches to save your life, will you hand him a form, or ask one of your mates to check, that he’s vaccinated and, if not, tell him that he’s to leave you to die?
Presumably you have an opinion on it though, as this is a forum primarily based on opinions?And why are you asking me a question like it? Im not the one that makes the laws up. All I did was say what was happening. my opinion is as important as yours on it. as in, not at all.