Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Churchlawtonblue said:
we all had to isolate for 10 days in August when my youngest caught it. wasnt too bad all of us together. This time its just me. wife has confined me to the bedroom. she has moved to spare room. Room service isnt bad to be honest as im not the most patient of people. Bit bored but things could be much worse.
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I’m in the same boat. Did a negative LFT today though so fingers crossed another one tomorrow and I can stop isolating.
 
Ric said:
I’m in the same boat. Did a negative LFT today though so fingers crossed another one tomorrow and I can stop isolating.
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Good news, my sixth day is Monday so hopefully I will be negative then and then Tuesday and then free. In the mean time its just reading eating, all room service of course, I only have to threaten to go down stairs and a daughter will snap into action. Plus watching a bit of footy and listening to classic heavy metal. Things could be worse. Missing taking my dogs out.
 
waspish said:
Listening to that doctor talking to Javid I predict they’ll introduce a Antibody test for all none vaccinated doctors and nurses if you have antibodies your fine.
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I must say I don't think the compulsory vax of health staff will stand the test of time. In terms of policy, you have to look at what the objective is in this case which is presumably that whilst we're at 'pandemic' level eg in an emergency situation, we can't afford to wait for everyone to generate their own individual immunity naturally and so vaccination offers a fast-track way of increasing overall immunity amongst the population - this example being particularly targeted at health staff of course.

However, it is now clear that neither vaccines nor natural immunity are likely to give long term protection against carrying or spreading the virus so once the population moves into a true endemic situation then what is the point of mandating vaccines against a virus similar to so many respiratory viruses we see such as the cold? Will there be any point in differentiating between individuals who have generated immunity via natural infection and those who have gained their immunity via vaccination? Why would the NHS deprive itself of staff for no benefit whatsoever? It just doesn't stand up to objective scrutiny and jabbing all staff every few months forever is unrealistic rendering compulsory vaccination even more pointless.

FYI I am pro-vaccination, have had my 3 x covid jabs as well as flu, yellow fever, hep, polio etc etc but being pro-vax doesn't mean policymakers should enforce a policy which no longer has any tangible benefits and would probably cause more harm over the next decades once covid is endemic and we are past the emergency stage.
 
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Would normally post this in detail on the data thread but it looks possible good news worth you all seeing. Though possible is the key word. See below.

313 UK deaths - was 162 last week

282 in England v 154 last week.

The England death numbers have been rising in the past few days. Some will be lag from the unusually long holiday- but most seems a real rise.

146,390 cases - but no Wales on Saturday so this is not entirely the fall it seems.

But with no Wales it was 179,637 last Saturday - so down 33,247


England only cases today 130,330 today - 19,075 fewer than yesterday & 32,242 on last Saturday

No testing data reported over the weekend but you have to suspect these will be reduced as often at weekend and so part of the reason - but if not it is a signifcant fall. It was still 1.8 million yesterday - but that was down from over 2 million on the previous 2 days.

Scotland was down 17,065 to 12,602 week to week and N Ireland posted 3458 - half yesterday but V nothing last Saturday.

So the numbers are UK wide whatever is causing the drop.
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
For the people debating the benefits of boosters, some new data out today.

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That’s pretty obvious/easy data to work out. 100 times more likely to be in hospital aged 60-69 comparing unvaxxed to boosted.
Interesting take is that a 70+ boosted is less likely to be in hospital than a young adult unvaxxed.

Whatever people think on govt rules, masks, lockdowns, isolation etc… it’s pretty damn obvious that having jabs is effective in vastly reducing chances of hospitalisation.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
we all had to isolate for 10 days in August when my youngest caught it. wasnt too bad all of us together. This time its just me. wife has confined me to the bedroom. she has moved to spare room. Room service isnt bad to be honest as im not the most patient of people. Bit bored but things could be much worse.
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It could be worse, a Scouser who goes in our local (he’s ok for a Dipper) said his Mrs wanted him to leave the family home last year as she needed space during lockdown. Just a trial separation until he was able to go back to his work as a tutor at a college. He found a small flat, paid six months rent and after a couple of weeks she moved another bloke in. The fourth time he’s been married and divorced, only late fifties. Renting a house now, still looking for “love” on internet sites, lacks common sense.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
For the people debating the benefits of boosters, some new data out today.

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a minor benefit in the older populations, negligible elsewhere.

Thanks for proving the point I've made for weeks though. Glad to know we're all in agreement that 3 v 2 makes negligible difference and your own posted data proves it unequivocally.
 
Healdplace said:
Would normally post this in detail on the data thread but it looks possible good news worth you all seeing. Though possible is the key word. See below.

313 UK deaths - was 162 last week

282 in England v 154 last week.

The England death numbers have been rising in the past few days. Some will be lag from the unusually long holiday- but most seems a real rise.

146,390 cases - but no Wales on Saturday so this is not entirely the fall it seems.

But with no Wales it was 179,637 last Saturday - so down 33,247


England only cases today 130,330 today - 19,075 fewer than yesterday & 32,242 on last Saturday

No testing data reported over the weekend but you have to suspect these will be reduced as often at weekend and so part of the reason - but if not it is a signifcant fall. It was still 1.8 million yesterday - but that was down from over 2 million on the previous 2 days.

Scotland was down 17,065 to 12,602 week to week and N Ireland posted 3458 - half yesterday but V nothing last Saturday.

So the numbers are UK wide whatever is causing the drop.
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The drop in cases is good as is the apparent slow down in hospital admissions and the lack of rise in people in ICU. The increase is deaths is disappointing to say the least, this had been holding up well until the last few days, but given the huge numbers some sort of rise can only be expected I suppose. But hopefully we are turning a corner. hard to see what can be done now as implementing limited restrictions like in Wales and Scotland doesn't seem to have reduced cases? Would seem its all or nothing?
 
Gabriel said:
Study from France, not yet peer-reviewed, suggests that Omicron is 105% more transmissible than Delta.
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No surprise as the natural R0 for Omicron is around 10 and 5 for Delta so no real surprise. Vaccines, boosters, prior infections, recent infections and people following guidelines bring the effective Omicron reproductive rate down to about 1.2
 
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