Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

France allowing a limited number of fans back. First Poland, then France. Germany next???

bobbyowenquiff said:
They have managed the virus much better than us with 1,300 deaths so far. They are tracking and tracing properly with an app that works. Also 25 per cent capacity is what some polish teams already get for their home games. It will be interesting to see how it goes.
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Yes but they are not us. I live here. I don't associate myself with UK plc's elite like many nationalists. I'd like to say the high number of deaths in the UK are down to incompetence but far more likely it's down to factors such as policy, demographics, past exposure to coronaviruses, travel, seasonality due to latitude etc.
 
The Russian Premier League has returned this weekend. They haven't got coronavirus under control at all, it seems to me, but are gradually removing restrictions and doing the usual Russian thing of lying about the figures in the hope that nobody notices. Anyway, they're allowing crowds in up to 10% of ground capacity.

I've only seen one game so far where they seem to have tried to achieve some kind of distancing between spectators, though. At Ekaterinburg, they'd taped off four seats in every five so that people had to sit at a remove from one another. At most of the venues, people seemed to be sitting where they wanted and commonly there were swathes of space in which no one was sitting while there were pockets where you might have 15 or so people sitting quite close together across three or four rows. And at CSKA Moscow, they seemed to pack everyone into the ultras' section behind one goal so they could generate the best atmosphere possible. It worked in the sense that the fans made plenty of noise but is it really sensible from a safety perspective?

And the whole thing is descending into farce. Last Wednesday, a player at Rostov tested positive, meaning that the whole of the first team and its coaching staff have gone into quarantine for 14 days. But the authorities left a decision on whether to postpone Friday's match away to Sochi to the two clubs. Sochi insisted on it going ahead so Rostov had to play their under-18s, who hadn't even been in training until then. The kids played their hearts out but lost 10-1 in one of the most depressing sporting spectacles I've ever witnessed.

Now at least two of the six teams due to play today are rumoured to have positive tests in the camp. And unconfirmed morning reports claim that Dinamo Moscow, who are due to play this evening in the southern city of Krasnodar, haven't taken their scheduled flight. The whole thing is becoming a bit of a joke.
 
Reports in the Spanish press that Barcelona are hoping to have 30,000 fans back at the Nou Camp inside the next 10 days.
 
Rascal said:
It isn't a betrayal of key workers at all, I never said that, nor have I commented on the economics of it all regarding PL club finances. The safeguarding efforts the clubs have gone to are admirable and common sense, I have no issue with that either. I have zero issue with protecting millionaires either, they will survive. I do think that Government allowing football to resume is a sop to the masses and is a tool to control.

So I will reiterate my concern. It is the TV companies taking advantage of the crisis to push through changes that become the new norm. The 19th game played say in Kuaka Lumpar, the FA Cup final played in Qatar, Kick Off times changed so that they are even more ridiculous than they are already are now, as TV companies seek to sell subscriptions to foreign markets. Once taboo's are broken and precedents are set then there is no going back. That is my concern, its the concern that the match going fan no longer has games they can attend because SKY have decided that they want to show a game at 11am on a Monday morning so that it can satisfy the Indonesian market, its our club being whored out across the world to play PL games in any place with the money to stage the game. You may think this is pie in the sky but who ever expected Monday night football would be become commonplace and fans would have to take 2 days off work if they wanted to see City play away at Southampton. Who ever thought the FA Cup final would ever be anything but at 3pm on Saturday, now it is played to suit the TV market and if City are there we have to stay over because there are no trains home.

There are already loads of complaints from football fans of all clubs about KO times being changed, about semi finals played at Wembley etc, my concern is this will get worse because of the new normal and fans who are regular match attendee's will be shown even more disregard than we are now. My concerns have always been over match going fans, I couldn't give two fucks about somebody who never goes and already has a sky subscription because that is their choice to do so, but as a match going fan I am already sick of being treated like shit by the PL and TV companies and my concerns are that this crisis will be used to make things worse for match going fans.
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A “tool to control”??
No, forced lockdown etc was and is a “tool to control”. Telling people what they can and can’t do is and not trusting the majority to behave responsibly is a tool to control.
 
Glasgow Rangers issue statement to the effect that they intend to re-open Ibrox to a limited no. of fans in August.
 
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