BlueRockape
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It's bent football has always been bent the only difference now it's unashamedly bent
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Corruption in English football?
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BlueMoonz1977
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It's bent football has always been bent the only difference now it's unashamedly bent
Agree, the only way this corruption will come out is if it gets to a point, sometime in the future and it is so evident that it starts to destroy the league
Then some actual journalist will blow the whole thing open.
At the moment the EPL is such a cash cow, not just for the clubs but as a revenue stream for the media, that it is not in the media interests to bring it down
From a sporting point of view, what City did in 2008 wasn't fair.
How can one club spend so much, so soon. Scooping up the sports finest players.
I also don't believe all of our sponsors at that time were legit.
It was "the" very idea of buying success.
But
I do believe it was the ONLY way to break the monopoly.
The way the Premier league was set up made it impossible to do it any other way.
The efforts made to stop us actually only added fuel to the fire. The introduction of FFP disguised as rules to stop clubs getting into unmanageable debt, actually accelerated our plans.
The biggest thing they got wrong was thinking our owners had a short term plan just to gain a few trophies. (sugar daddies?)
If they had left us alone, success may have taken much longer. Once they saw what was happening, it started to worry the traditional top clubs around the world.
The academy and infrastructure of the City group terrified them.
My main gripe is that we are not the only ones to have had large investments/help at the start.
They have all had it at some point. Airbrushed out of history to make the masses feel they did it the "right way".
The two Spanish clubs should be held up as what is really wrong with football. Bleating hypocritically to anybody who will listen about our "State funded" success. Like the Scottish league, having just two successful clubs doesn't make for a good product. But nobody cares as long as they are successful.
Chelsea of all clubs moaning about our investment model!
Then we are left with the Rags and Dippers.
The most "self entitled" clubs in the world. They truly believe their own hype. They have both bungled their way through the last three decades, with mismanagement and outrageous spending sprees. Yet somehow it is our fault.
Not a word uttered how unfair this has been on the rest of the league over the years. The media machine around them has been built to protect them.
Even now, BT and SKY reinforce the myth that we buy the most expensive players. That we pay the most wages. That we have the largest squad. These lies go unchallenged by the rest of the media on a daily basis.
However, the cracks are starting to show. The Dippers are just waking up to the reality that they are no longer the favoured ones this year. The help they got last season has been transferred to the Rags.
Suddenly all the Dipper media contingent will be asking the questions nobody would ask before. "Just why DO United get the most penalties?" "Why are United allowed to operate and buy new players with such levels of debt?" "Why are they allowed to operate from dodgy offshore countries?"
It's going to get messy. Sit back, watch and drink it all in folks!
How can one club spend so much, so soon. Scooping up the sports finest players.
I also don't believe all of our sponsors at that time were legit.
It was "the" very idea of buying success.
But
I do believe it was the ONLY way to break the monopoly.
The way the Premier league was set up made it impossible to do it any other way.
The efforts made to stop us actually only added fuel to the fire. The introduction of FFP disguised as rules to stop clubs getting into unmanageable debt, actually accelerated our plans.
The biggest thing they got wrong was thinking our owners had a short term plan just to gain a few trophies. (sugar daddies?)
If they had left us alone, success may have taken much longer. Once they saw what was happening, it started to worry the traditional top clubs around the world.
The academy and infrastructure of the City group terrified them.
My main gripe is that we are not the only ones to have had large investments/help at the start.
They have all had it at some point. Airbrushed out of history to make the masses feel they did it the "right way".
The two Spanish clubs should be held up as what is really wrong with football. Bleating hypocritically to anybody who will listen about our "State funded" success. Like the Scottish league, having just two successful clubs doesn't make for a good product. But nobody cares as long as they are successful.
Chelsea of all clubs moaning about our investment model!
Then we are left with the Rags and Dippers.
The most "self entitled" clubs in the world. They truly believe their own hype. They have both bungled their way through the last three decades, with mismanagement and outrageous spending sprees. Yet somehow it is our fault.
Not a word uttered how unfair this has been on the rest of the league over the years. The media machine around them has been built to protect them.
Even now, BT and SKY reinforce the myth that we buy the most expensive players. That we pay the most wages. That we have the largest squad. These lies go unchallenged by the rest of the media on a daily basis.
However, the cracks are starting to show. The Dippers are just waking up to the reality that they are no longer the favoured ones this year. The help they got last season has been transferred to the Rags.
Suddenly all the Dipper media contingent will be asking the questions nobody would ask before. "Just why DO United get the most penalties?" "Why are United allowed to operate and buy new players with such levels of debt?" "Why are they allowed to operate from dodgy offshore countries?"
It's going to get messy. Sit back, watch and drink it all in folks!
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But it was stagnant for years, whilst we were down amongst the dead men the Rags won the league most years. Sky invented rivalries, Arsenal for one and the obvious, even though they were never real rivals, Liverpool. No one was allowed to win it regularly except the GPC. it suited the brand and kept the money coming in. When it looked like we were joining in they set out to fuck us at every turn as we do not generate the sales figures.I wouldn't disagree with that but, commercially that would be a very short-term view because it would ensure that none of the competing bands would ever become as popular. This would mean lost income in the present and future from the other bands and failure to evolve the product resulting in consumer boredom.
Going back to football, I'd question whether the PL product would generate the income it does without the emergence of Manchester City and its revolution in the way football in this country is played. The Aguero and 100 point goal at Southampton are the iconic moments from the PL era. The investment to make that happen came from outside, not the product owner. Indeed, such investment is now outlawed which is a corruption of sporting values in itself.
A quick look at who would have won the league if we hadn't introduced an element of competition (and I believe we opened the door for Leicester) shows us the stagnation that would have ensued if the PL had its way.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Blackburn did it with Jack Walkers money, but that was never going to be sustainable. City have truly crashed the party.From a sporting point of view, what City did in 2008 wasn't fair.
How can one club spend so much, so soon. Scooping up the sports finest players.
I also don't believe all of our sponsors at that time were legit.
It was "the" very idea of buying success.
But
I do believe it was the ONLY way to break the monopoly.
The way the Premier league was set up made it impossible to do it any other way.
The efforts made to stop us actually only added fuel to the fire. The introduction of FFP disguised as rules to stop club getting into unmanageable debt, actually accelerated our plans.
The biggest thing they got wrong was thinking our owners had a short term plan just to gain a few trophies. (sugar daddies?)
If they had left us alone, success may have taken much longer. Once they saw what was happening, it started to worry the traditional top clubs around the world.
The academy and infrastructure of the City group terrified them.
My main gripe is that we are not the only ones to have large investments/help at the start.
They have all had it at some point. Airbrushed out of history to make the masses feel they did it the "right way".
The two Spanish clubs should be held up as what is really wrong with football. Bleating hypocritically to anybody who will listen about our "State funded" success. Like the Scottish league, having just two successful clubs doesn't make for a good product. But nobody cares as long as they are successful.
Chelsea of all clubs moaning about our investment model!
Then we are left with the Rags and Dippers.
The most "self entitled" clubs in the world. They truly believe their own hype. They have both bungled their way through the last three decades, with mismanagement and outrageous spending sprees. Yet somehow it is our fault.
Not a word uttered how unfair this has been on the rest of the league over the years. The media machine around them has been built to protect them.
Even now, BT and SKY reinforce the myth that we buy the most expensive players. That we pay the most wages. That we have the largest squad. These lies go unchallenged by the rest of the media on a daily basis.
However, the cracks are starting to show. The Dippers are just waking up to the reality that they are no longer the favoured ones this year. The help they got last season has been transferred to the Rags.
Suddenly all the Dipper media contingent will be asking the questions nobody would ask before. "Just why DO United get the most penalties?" "Why are United allowed to operate and buy new players with such levels of debt?" "Why are they allowed to operate from dodgy offshore countries?"
It's going to get messy. Sit back, watch and drink it all in folks!
the-ecstacy-of-eight
Well-Known Member
...and Chelsea pretty much bought every player from a "none-top-5" team who they saw as being able to make the step up when Roman (can't spell his surname) took over the reigns.Blackburn did it with Jack Walkers money, but that was never going to be sustainable. City have truly crashed the party.
How many wingers did they have?
Klopp basically said the game was corrupt in his post match interview last night. If he knows it and is prepared to speak out, why are people, some on here, still denying it ?
We have Keys and Gray saying the Rags penalties are bent and now Klopp. That is just one aspect of the corruption but it shows the PL will manipulate anything to get the result they want/need.
We have Keys and Gray saying the Rags penalties are bent and now Klopp. That is just one aspect of the corruption but it shows the PL will manipulate anything to get the result they want/need.
Tuearts right boot
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There is huge money involved, therefore it's bent. It's only natural....
Blue Maniac
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They new City were becoming too good and we were going to pull away so they started with the FFP prolonged attacks, they then sneaked VAR in through and ensured it was setup to ensure success to the red cash cow clubs. Absolutely rotten and sadly we are going to have to standby and watch it spun into some miraculous football achievement when the truth is United are shite. Liverpool only slightly better.
The Future’s Blue!
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Liverpool getting preferential treatment just as the PL are negotiating the Nordic deal. Now the Rags getting the same preference as China (PPTV) renege on their deal, costing the PL £160 mil, having to get a lesser bidder in to try and broach the loss, what could the incentive be?There is huge money involved, therefore it's bent. It's only natural....