Corruption in English football?

[Blue Mist]

Man U are a top 6 side simply because they spend hundreds of millions on players... you really think they should finish about 10th if they didn't 'have refs onside'

They were going to last season until Fernadez kicked a defender in the penalty area and the ref gave it for the Rags. They were not only helped last season they were pushed into 4th spot.
You say you want proof of corruption, how about the referee that has now admitted he was ordered to change his match report. He stated he had clearly seen a so called incident and didn't see it as a foul and a sending off. He has gone public and said he was told to re-write it.

Anyway, you clearly will never accept any proof of any kind and I am minded to think the other poster was correct when he said you are on a wind up so I will not be responding to you from now on.

 

[cheekybids]

last line isn't true, i genuinely would like to see actual proof of corruption, i would love to be proved wrong.

That Klopp quote isn't proof.

I want to see actual proof of who specifically is involved at the FA/Officials and what must be a huge amount of people involved in determining that they give Man U dodgy decisions in order to let them win trophys (there doing a bad job of it by the way)

I see ridiculous decisions for and against every team to be honest. I think some are to blind sided with there hatred for United + Liverpool and see 'corruption' in every decision.

Your minds are made up so there's little point debating, but i am very much open to seeing actual concrete proof of corruption - klopp quote and a few soft pens in United's favour isn't enough,

Are you in on it or just acting like a knob.

show me all the soft pens we get in the last 2 years & then show me the soft pens against the Rags.

 

[cheekybids]

I'm not a City fan.

They generally haven't played well, in fact they have been poor in lots of games but got over the line. Most recent being Wolves and Villa. But you can add first 70 mins vs Leipzig at home, Soton away first half, Istanbul away, Chelsea and City where both teams played for a draw in both games, Arsenal where they lost, they actually played okay here but got done to them what they do to others, a smash and grab, Brighton, their shiteness in the last two CL games, their losses to palace and Spurs (which now apparently don't count on Redcafe cos they 'didn't have a pre season')West Ham away first half and more. In most of these games they got a deflection, or a VAR decision, or something else in their favour that is quite unsustainable. Like a few years ago when it was so obvious they were gonna tail off because De Gea being superman in every game was not sustainable. Hence Jose finishing second then being sacked for being halfway down the league the next season.

City didn’t play for a draw, they played against a 10 man defence without going all out kamikaze as the media expected. City had the chances & poor finishing was the reason for the draw, however the expert analysis was bullshit.

Also the Rags were awarded a penalty in this game, VAR wouldn’t have over ruled the shocking decision & the commentary team were telling us it was definite pen but it was so far offside it couldn’t be given.

 

[Bobbyespania]

or they could just scrap VAR and point at the spot whenever they like, every corner for Man U, players tussling - ref can just award Man U a penalty - would be a lot easier

How many times have you seen a penalty given in the box from a corner when players are all pushing and shoving? The one that i vaguely remember was one given against us in a cup tie at the swamp many years ago just after Rosler equalized for us. Not seen any before or after.

 

[Chris in London]

also, did you do know Man City have had more penalties awarded than Man Utd in the last 5 years.. how do you square that one ?

That doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. City have been far and away the best team over the last 5 years. We have scored the most goals, accrued the most points, and have the most possession.

Did YOU know that in the 2016/17 season we had five penalties awarded in the first eight games and then only two more (IIRC) during the rest of the season?

 

[Chris in London]

How many times have you seen a penalty given in the box from a corner when players are all pushing and shoving? The one that i vaguely remember was one given against us in a cup tie at the swamp many years ago just after Rosler equalized for us. Not seen any before or after.

Rosler’s goal took the lead. It was the rags pen that was the equaliser.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Just numbers of Penalties given is a fucking stupid way to dismiss/support an arguement.

A Penalty given when you're already 4-0 is not the same as a penalty at 0-0 at around 70mins or when you're under the cosh.

 

[Messi38]

City didn’t play for a draw, they played against a 10 man defence without going all out kamikaze as the media expected. City had the chances & poor finishing was the reason for the draw, however the expert analysis was bullshit.

Also the Rags were awarded a penalty in this game, VAR wouldn’t have over ruled the shocking decision & the commentary team were telling us it was definite pen but it was so far offside it couldn’t be given.

Fair enough. I wasn't criticising anyway.

 

[Messi38]

Just numbers of Penalties given is a fucking stupid way to dismiss/support an arguement.

A Penalty given when you're already 4-0 is not the same as a penalty at 0-0 at around 70mins or when you're under the cosh.

True but many of their penalties come when they're level or at crucial points in the match. Obviously the one I think they got in the 5-0 game vs Leipzig they were already well ahead so irrelevant,

 

[TheThirdDeano]

True but many of their penalties come when they're level or at crucial points in the match. Obviously the one I think they got in the 5-0 game vs Leipzig they were already well ahead so irrelevant,

That's my point!