COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Claytop]

WHO are basically saying now in their presser you must test all suspected cases.

I'm not sure how you go about that on the likely scale of cases we'll have? Where all they all going to be tested in a safe environment?

 

[SouthStandStander]

Not yet from what I can see. I think they sometimes announce number of new cases and number of deaths at different times

Edit: Worldometers is showing 1 extra death today:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

I was wondering whether they were leaving it for boris to announce in his press conference later.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

That was among the concerns I acknowledged, but it would likely only be a very small number of people with data science (like me) and/or scientific research backgrounds that would even be able to do anything with the models, so I think the overall “bad” impact would be lower than the overall “good” impact.

Just my opinion, of course, and I don’t think they will be doing it any time soon, anyway, for the reasons we have discussed.

The problem is the media get hold of it, report it wrong and then the government are fighting journalists off and have lost control, further losing public confidence. Better keeping it secret if you ask me.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

I am, as well, for obvious reasons.

But, I believe it will only be recent modelling outcomes based on recent relevant data universes — I have not seen anything about them opening access to the models themselves, although one of the heads of the several modelling groups did link to several explainer papers (but they were relatively outdated, with the most recent being from 2017 and describing a pandemic influenza model which is informing some of their current modelling).

I would still love to be able to scrutinise and manipulate the underlying models being used to advise the government. While I understand some of the concerns with making them available (amateur manipulation that could lead to inaccurate projections being shared, as well as exposing the risk thresholds and confidence levels inherent to the models, which nearly always makes non-scientists/analysts very nervous), I still think transparency in this situation would go some way to improving public trust and confidence in the government’s response.

Made comment on this before as I think it's vital - If they are going to follow a specific model than that model must be held up to peer scientific scrutiny (I understand there's a risk that the paper may be politicised which we don't want), I don't think anyone should dismiss out of hand a policy a government is following but to be honest after reading some of the posts on here for those in favour I'm not sure how they can back this with such conviction without knowing the model the government/CMA are using. I hope this is not just blind faith and the papers reveal some illuminating facts/caveats we are missing.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The problem is the media get hold of it, report it wrong and then the government are fighting journalists off and have lost control, further losing public confidence. Better keeping it secret if you ask me.

I think you’ll be getting a call from several governments across the world soon to help manage elements of their responses. ;-)

Only a joke!

 

[M18CTID]

I was wondering whether they were leaving it for boris to announce in his press conference later.

Maybe. It does seem odd that there would only be 1 more death today

 

[i kne albert davy]

When you get about a week it starts to ease off,the cough continues though,hang on in there lovely

Thank you. it's pretty shit I can tell you if you're suspected of having you'll know best of luck with it clearing up. NHS line and Doc's are pretty much a waste of space basically its stay at home take pain relief and get in touch if you get worse 6 days in still high temp.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

I'm not sure how you go about that on the likely scale of cases we'll have? Where all they all going to be tested in a safe environment?

Drive through centres?

 

[urban genie]

I'm not sure how you go about that on the likely scale of cases we'll have? Where all they all going to be tested in a safe environment?

I added to post as I was typing and replying to a message I got so posted early.

We have created more risk tbf and ain't testing anyone anyway unless they end up in hospital.

They are saying stopping transmission is the best course of action and it should reduce cases and help with keeping testing from being overloaded.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Are people assuming they have the virus considering they are not being tested? There seems to be a lot of slebs announcing they have it and if we take that as an indication are they guessing too? I ask this because I only thought they tested the hospitalised.

They do now mate they're going off the symptoms you report, all i'll say is personally i've never had anything like this 6 days with temperature over 100f.