COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Vic said:
Frankly, every local authority is in trouble with funding adult social care (a statutory obligation) so they are having to make more cuts to other stuff. Care homes were already closing because they don't make money. 1600 have closed in the last ten years (1 in 8). An arbitrary cut-off at 75 sounds inhuman but if someone has dementia or a chronic painful condition and gets coronavirus...

I've already heard people reminiscing about pneumonia as "old man's friend" (not nice but 100 years ago judged a relatively painless way to go).

It simply isn't always a good thing to prolong life. I have in mind a GP friend who had a stroke and survived but his quality of life was poor and caring for him ruined his wife's health.

Difficult decisions about who gets treated will swiftly become the norm.
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Radio 4 Inside Health: The Virus discussing this very issue now.
 
I feared that PHE and NHS management was simply not up to this crisis and so it is proving.
Military command structures should have been put in place along side existing management structures to monitor performance and allow observations to be be made outside of the existing management structures that allow tactical and strategic improvements to be made on a day to day basis.
Probably too late now.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Don't worry (yet) It will take weeks for your cilia to grow back to perform it's normal function. Of more concern is the debris left behind. Any deterioration and you need to be on antibiotics pronto.
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Thanks,i will bear that in mind,it is mostly dry cough at the moment,it is a shocker,i have never had a cough this violent,it it relentless
 
Lancet Fluke said:
The loss of sense of smell is absolutely an indicator. Can’t believe his GP wouldn’t know that. On a positive note some doctor on Newsnight said there is some evidence building that the people who lose their sense of smell might tend to get a milder case overall. So fingers crossed this is the case for your dad.
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Some info in here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52111606
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Expect a hell of a lot more.

575,000 died of swine flu worldwide in 2009 and 2010. Even that figure would only be early June by the time we surpass it. By the end of the year, who knows where we’ll stand...
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Thats the very high end estimate from the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

"fter the peak of illness during the second wave had come and gone in the United States. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated."
 
Lancet Fluke said:
The loss of sense of smell is absolutely an indicator. Can’t believe his GP wouldn’t know that. On a positive note some doctor on Newsnight said there is some evidence building that the people who lose their sense of smell might tend to get a milder case overall. So fingers crossed this is the case for your dad.
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i hope you are right mate, it sounded like they didn’t even want to entertain it, I understand they are strained like but still. Worrying times for everyone on here. 4 weeks ago this didn’t seem really, now I know about 6 people who’ve had it confirmed and think it’s in my parents house. Live abroad too so feel totally helpless :(
 
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