COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

scroll down

Coronavirus in the UK: How many have died or tested positive where you live - and where the latest hotspots are

The number of new daily coronavirus cases has been growing rapidly after the Delta (India) variant became the dominant strain of COVID in the UK.

news.sky.com

Cheers Kaz

 

[johnnytapia]

UK death stats (non Covid).
19 people will have died from suicide today.
450 will have died from cancer
6 will have been killed on the road
2 murdered
I propose therefore that we:
Ban the sale of each and every single object that could feasibly be used to end one's life
Ban the sale of each and every carcinogenic product
Close all the roads
Sorry, can't think how we'll prevent murder.

 

[Scottyboi]

UK death stats (non Covid).
19 people will have died from suicide today.
450 will have died from cancer
6 will have been killed on the road
2 murdered
I propose therefore that we:
Ban the sale of each and every single object that could feasibly be used to end one's life
Ban the sale of each and every carcinogenic product
Close all the roads
Sorry, can't think how we'll prevent murder.

Ok boomer

 

[worsleyweb]

UK death stats (non Covid).
19 people will have died from suicide today.
450 will have died from cancer
6 will have been killed on the road
2 murdered
I propose therefore that we:
Ban the sale of each and every single object that could feasibly be used to end one's life
Ban the sale of each and every carcinogenic product
Close all the roads
Sorry, can't think how we'll prevent murder.

Is it weakening or getting to a stage we can treat it so much better? Could be really decisive this next month if cases stay or rise and deaths stay stable? I am getting more hopeful. The vaccine will hopefully be here pre Xmas and with all due respect 10 people a day dieing of it does not justify the mental anguish it is causing to so many. I think things will be a lot clearer by the end of the year as to where this is heading. Been an absolutely wank year.

 

[johnnytapia]

Any deaths from telegraphing lockdown is and always has been on boris or cummings ,the tills might be full but that is not worth a life

Police have shut down a series of illegal parties overnight as people enjoyed a final weekend of revelry before tougher coronavirus restrictions come into force

Coronavirus: Large parties shut down overnight by police as people enjoy blowout weekend before new COVID rules

People flock to bars and pubs in cities across the UK amid warm weekend weather, despite rising numbers of infections.

news.sky.com

The only people to blame for the subsequent deaths, are the gormless twats attending these parties. We're a nation of idiots.

 

[chesterbells]

UK death stats (non Covid).
19 people will have died from suicide today.
450 will have died from cancer
6 will have been killed on the road
2 murdered
I propose therefore that we:
Ban the sale of each and every single object that could feasibly be used to end one's life
Ban the sale of each and every carcinogenic product
Close all the roads
Sorry, can't think how we'll prevent murder.

None of those are contagious and can extrapolate exponentially in numbers.

 

[bluethrunthru]

UK death stats (non Covid).
19 people will have died from suicide today.
450 will have died from cancer
6 will have been killed on the road
2 murdered
I propose therefore that we:
Ban the sale of each and every single object that could feasibly be used to end one's life
Ban the sale of each and every carcinogenic product
Close all the roads
Sorry, can't think how we'll prevent murder.

what a silly post.

You can't catch suicide from someone else. You don't get cancer from somebody else's breath. Road deaths are accidents not disease led. Murder isn't contracted by the deceased from someone else.

Mental health services ( albeit stretched financially ) - hospitals and cancer research combat cancer - various road safety strategies and improvements in road safety combat road death and we have the Police to try and keep people from being murdered.

We therefore do what we can to lessen the impact from Covid 19 - in all cases its how you adapt to live with a threat and tackle it to reduce the threat as much as you can - doing nothing on Covid prevention would be stupid in the extreme.

 

[johnnytapia]

Is it weakening or getting to a stage we can treat it so much better? Could be really decisive this next month if cases stay or rise and deaths stay stable? I am getting more hopeful. The vaccine will hopefully be here pre Xmas and with all due respect 10 people a day during or it does not justify the mental anguish it is causing to so many. I think things will be a lot clearer by the end of the year as to where this is heading. Been an absolutely wank year.

The high school, which my own school feeds into, called us on Friday. They had sent 12 classes home. That's nearly 300 kids. So hundreds of parents now off work for 14 days. The kids could return in a fortnight, get another case and the same classes go home. And so it continues. We had 3 staff off by day 2 because their own children had been sent home. Said it earlier in this thread, a huge decision is imminent because education and the economy cannot operate under current restrictions. We either have the restrictions and accept the education of the children will be hammered and that people will be toing and froing from work / isolation (and all the inherent cost - financial and human) or we accept an element of risk and reduce the restrictions. We can't have both.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Is it weakening or getting to a stage we can treat it so much better? Could be really decisive this next month if cases stay or rise and deaths stay stable? I am getting more hopeful. The vaccine will hopefully be here pre Xmas and with all due respect 10 people a day during or it does not justify the mental anguish it is causing to so many. I think things will be a lot clearer by the end of the year as to where this is heading. Been an absolutely wank year.

I think the lower death rate is due to fewer numbers of infections which means hospitals have more time and more staff to devote to the treatment of each patient. Better understanding of the virus which has helped improve treatments and the fact that - until the last couple of weeks - it wasn't running through care homes infecting the most weak, aged and vulnerable. I think the fear is a massive increase in infections could mean ICU and hospital staff being spread more thinly across each infected patient and the news that it is increasing rapidly in care homes is worrying.

What I do find interesting is whilst we know the traditionally vulnerable - elderly, underlying health issues, BAME patients - the fact is deaths are not limited to those groups and even youngsters have died. Yet on the other hand there are plenty of cases of middle aged people, some with underlying conditions etc who test positive for antibodies and say they never, ever had any symptoms at all. There must surely be a genetic element to things too.

 

[johnnytapia]

what a silly post.

You can't catch suicide from someone else. You don't get cancer from somebody else's breath. Road deaths are accidents not disease led. Murder isn't contracted by the deceased from someone else.

Mental health services ( albeit stretched financially ) - hospitals and cancer research combat cancer - various road safety strategies and improvements in road safety combat road death and we have the Police to try and keep people from being murdered.

We therefore do what we can to lessen the impact from Covid 19 - in all cases its how you adapt to live with a threat and tackle it to reduce the threat as much as you can - doing nothing on Covid prevention would be stupid in the extreme.

It was facile post, but deliberately so. There were fewer than 20 deaths from Covid today in the UK, but that gets lost amidst the journalistic hysteria. Doing nothing on Covid would indeed be stupid in the extreme, but we have to have a semblance of risk / threat - otherwise we'd all be living in concrete clad nuclear-style bunkers, not venturing further than our own doorstep.

 

[cleavers]

I'm no denier. However, I really can't deny that my view has started to shift recently as the deaths have plummeted. It's been really encouraging to see it going down. Cases are going up, yep, and there has been a slight uptick in hospitalisations, but it's still absolutely marginal from where we were months ago, and it's so low that if it arrived now we'd not even notice largely.

I have a realtive that works at a Tameside hospital, in the "first wave" they only had one ward for covid, they now have two, and both full apparently, and so might shortly need a third, I think this should be of great concern to those in Tameside, especially those who work in the hospital, because they are more vulnerable than those walking the streets.

 

[RabidCity]

It was facile post, but deliberately so. There were fewer than 20 deaths from Covid today in the UK, but that gets lost amidst the journalistic hysteria. Doing nothing on Covid would indeed be stupid in the extreme, but we have to have a semblance of risk / threat - otherwise we'd all be living in concrete clad nuclear-style bunkers, not venturing further than our own doorstep.

Deaths with covid, not from it. It could well be anyone caught up in a car accident who didn't even have symptoms.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The high school, which my own school feeds into, called us on Friday. They had sent 12 classes home. That's nearly 300 kids. So hundreds of parents now off work for 14 days. The kids could return in a fortnight, get another case and the same classes go home. And so it continues. We had 3 staff off by day 2 because their own children had been sent home. Said it earlier in this thread, a huge decision is imminent because education and the economy cannot operate under current restrictions. We either have the restrictions and accept the education of the children will be hammered and that people will be toing and froing from work / isolation (and all the inherent cost - financial and human) or we accept an element of risk and reduce the restrictions. We can't have both.

What you say is true - it's a straight choice between a dying economy or dying people, but political suicide for any govt to admit it. We actually risk getting both at present.

 

[cleavers]

I'd like to go and see my Mum (although we have never been close).

Go see her if you can, close or not, if she goes with this you will be devastated, even if you can only see her at a distance it's worth it surely ?

 

[bluethrunthru]

It was facile post, but deliberately so. There were fewer than 20 deaths from Covid today in the UK, but that gets lost amidst the journalistic hysteria. Doing nothing on Covid would indeed be stupid in the extreme, but we have to have a semblance of risk / threat - otherwise we'd all be living in concrete clad nuclear-style bunkers, not venturing further than our own doorstep.

Yeah but the story you tell about the high school sending kids home - the press had an hysterical reaction to getting kids back in school - when what you describe as happening now was suggested as the likely outcome the press responded with an attack on "militant" unions and lazy cunts who just want to stay at home ( although many were working at home ) - so you somehow get people back in offices if you bear in mind that school experience what do you think will be the outcome?

I was working in a 10 floor office block in Gateshead. Max 2 to a lift on return will take ages to get people to the right floor. They all share the same lift. One person tests positive. How many go home for 14 days? Them? Their office? Their floor including offices they don't work in but share lift and toilet facilities? Or all 10 floors on the same basis?

 

[cleavers]

The media reporting that the UK government plan to target lock down shielding via letters from GPs to 4.5 million vulnerable people with individual risk assessments based on age, sex. weight and underlying conditions.

Sounds good in theory but have they told the GPs?

My GP wouldn't have a clue in my case (I'm 58), I've not visited for 5 years, and it was nigh on impossible to get an appointment in 2019.

Now they have virtual razor wire around the place, and it's nigh on impossible to even phone them, I logged on to their website 3 weeks ago to "join", and I'm still waiting for an email to allow me to ask a question of a nurse (minor non covid issue).

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Yeah but the story you tell about the high school sending kids home - the press had an hysterical reaction to getting kids back in school - when what you describe as happening now was suggested as the likely outcome the press responded with an attack on "militant" unions and lazy cunts who just want to stay at home ( although many were working at home ) - so you somehow get people back in offices if you bear in mind that school experience what do you think will be the outcome?

I was working in a 10 floor office block in Gateshead. Max 2 to a lift on return will take ages to get people to the right floor. They all share the same lift. One person tests positive. How many go home for 14 days? Them? Their office? Their floor including offices they don't work in but share lift and toilet facilities? Or all 10 floors on the same basis?

I think it's the within 2m for 15 mins rule for who else has to isolate. I suppose the answer for your office block and many like it is for all but the disabled to use the stairs?

 

[Blue and still suffering]

If you watch Dr John Campbell's video from today he talks about a German study which is showing that difference between case numbers and deaths is growing wider and that the death rates of the groups most at risk has fallen considerably over the past couple of months despite the increased number of cases. He believes this is good news, I suppose that we shall see if this study bears out over here in about three weeks.

 

[cleavers]

The only people to blame for the subsequent deaths, are the gormless twats attending these parties. We're a nation of idiots.

We always have been, there's no vaccine for "stupid" sadly.

 

[worsleyweb]

If you watch Dr John Campbell's video from today he talks about a German study which is showing that difference between case numbers and deaths is growing wider and that the death rates of the groups most at risk has fallen considerably over the past couple of months despite the increased number of cases. He believes this is good news, I suppose that we shall see if this study bears out over here in about three weeks.

Have you got a link mate?