COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Tim of the Oak]

Ok, I admit I have come across as a **** with a couple of posts regarding this ( I think this lockdown has had more of an effect on me than I like to admit)

But what I find frustrating is when I hear public sector workers such as teachers saying they want this lockdown to continue. In an ideal world everyone would but we don't live in an ideal world.

PHW will still get paid, they don't have the same worries as I and many millions of people in this country do. I would love to have lockdown until this virus has been eliminated but it's simply not possible.

We are asking workers in the services industry such as ASDA, TESCO to work so why can't we do the same? If everyone is extra cautious we will just have to live with the risk.

When do we agree its safe to go back? Is it when there is only a couple of hundred cases left? How long would that take? Do we wait until there is a vaccine? If there is ever gone a be one?

I fear what is coming next such as civil unrest and recession is gonna be far more devastating than this virus ever was.

Again, I apologise sounding like a **** in the previous posts.

I can see both sides of the argument including from those independent / private sector schools they won’t be resuming until September. Teachers also have the pressure of making decisions affecting other people’s children.

Maybe it would be best for schools to start reopening from June. Some of the demands the teaching unions have made are Government promises that have yet to be delivered, such as contact tracing.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Social distancing toddlers at schools won’t work and will be really mentally unfair on them.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

You're still missing the point. You're propagating the myth that teachers, support staff and kids have been tossing it off for the last 2 months.

And people in supermarkets have to work otherwise we wouldnt have any provisions. It was a bollocks post in many ways and not thought out, and instead borne out of a dislike for public sector workers and probably little else. The stigma that the Cameron govt attached to them when scapegoating them for the mess the bankers caused has stuck in the consciousness for so many people.

 

[JamesMCFC]

The classroom situation is quite specific and that has to be taken into account. Some jobs you can feasibly social distance some you can’t. Teaching you definitely can’t imo. You shouldn’t fall into the trap of thinking that teachers generally don’t want to be in school teaching the kids and just can’t be arsed, most of them do. But concerns of being surrounded by a crowd of snotty unhygienic kids in a very enclosed environment at this time rightly causes them concerns. The fact that private sector workers might not get paid if they don’t return to work is not really their problem or relevant to the health and safety of teaching during a pandemic.

No, it isn't their problem.

But if teachers don't work then kids can't go back to school which means parents can't go to work.

 

[SWP's back]

Also need to factor that high percentage of those that have died would have died in the next 7 or so months anyway so excess deaths may actually level off a bit by the end of the year. Providing we don't have a big 2nd spike.

Mean average years lost is ten years (not seven months) so I doubt it.

 

[SilverFox2]

Just wondering if the age proportions of those who have died is still 50+ percent of those over 80 years of age or are we running out of the ones to whom death has been brought forward a little?

 

[kaz7]

Here's one. Year one kids, my wife has to help them open their lunchboxes, they need help with stuff.

Just another example of people who have no idea what fuck teachers do.

Social distance from a cheese barm, I ask you!!

Ha it was a funny question to ask,not the answer I expected lol
From what I read teachers want answers to details like you suggested whilst the gov have a vision of nicely behaved kids all sitting two metres apart,not running around touching everything and sticking their fingers in their mouths
tbf it was probably like that at the posh private schools they went to...

 

[Postman Pep]

No, it isn't their problem.

But if teachers don't work then kids can't go back to school which means parents can't go to work.

They are working

 

[SWP's back]

It's amazing how polarised people's positions have become here (and in the US). What the hell happened to the centre ground. When you get a heated debate between two sides the truth is usually to be found in the middle.

I’m in the middle and getting annoyed by both sides, there’s plenty of room on this fence if you want a seat.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Jenny Harrier is in danger of ruining her reputation.

She changes the parameters of the message to suit the government narative daily

We’re way past that. When she was questioned back in March on cancelling big sporting events:

“The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."

She’s a gobshite. Along with Karol Sikora, both are lauded for their positivity when we just need factual truth.