COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Eds said:
My worry is that the number of new infections isn’t really dropping significantly. With all the measures in place and the hardship of the last two months why isn’t this figure moving downwards?
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Think it might be that measured infections are not falling because we are measuring far more, so identifying a greater proportion of those infected.
Deaths and hospital admissions seem to be falling though they are lagging indicators.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Staying at home? Not full time generally because it hasn’t been necessary but schools tend to have a rota and teachers have been going in and teaching/looking after children of key workers. The rest of the time they are doing the online stuff from home for the kids who are at home. I’m not sure you comprehend anything tbh.
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Go easy on him: you've used four sentences in that post (3 more than he's likely to normally cope with. And that's pushing things).
 
Eds said:
My worry is that the number of new infections isn’t really dropping significantly. With all the measures in place and the hardship of the last two months why isn’t this figure moving downwards?
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It is, but probably now half or more new infections are in various institutions mainly care home. If like a few weeks ago new infections were just those presenting at hospitals the new positives would be quite low at a guess in the 1500 give or take area.
I’d separate the figures when published because then we could see where measures in care homes or in the community need to be targeted, which they probably are doing but we don’t see it in the raw figures so wonder why they are lifting restrictions.
 
Eds said:
My worry is that the number of new infections isn’t really dropping significantly. With all the measures in place and the hardship of the last two months why isn’t this figure moving downwards?
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They are constantly telling us it is and are basing loosening the restrictions based on this. The number testing positive daily shouldn't even be taken into account. More tests are being done and you can guarantee that a lot of the positive tests any given day weren't taken that day.

It was reported that there are 24 new cases a day on London at the back end of last week, that is massive progress although probably not absolutely accurate either.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
Staying at home? Not full time generally because it hasn’t been necessary but schools tend to have a rota and teachers have been going in and teaching/looking after children of key workers. The rest of the time they are doing the online stuff from home for the kids who are at home. I’m not sure you comprehend anything tbh.
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Ok, I admit I have come across as a **** with a couple of posts regarding this ( I think this lockdown has had more of an effect on me than I like to admit)

But what I find frustrating is when I hear public sector workers such as teachers saying they want this lockdown to continue. In an ideal world everyone would but we don't live in an ideal world.

PHW will still get paid, they don't have the same worries as I and many millions of people in this country do. I would love to have lockdown until this virus has been eliminated but it's simply not possible.

We are asking workers in the services industry such as ASDA, TESCO to work so why can't we do the same? If everyone is extra cautious we will just have to live with the risk.

When do we agree its safe to go back? Is it when there is only a couple of hundred cases left? How long would that take? Do we wait until there is a vaccine? If there is ever gone a be one?

I fear what is coming next such as civil unrest and recession is gonna be far more devastating than this virus ever was.

Again, I apologise sounding like a **** in the previous posts.
 
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karen7 said:
Briefing

Kids can take lunch boxes but not pencil cases? Kids won't nick each others lunch boxes

How can women teachers work without childcare? They are key workers so their kids will be in school
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Here's one. Year one kids, my wife has to help them open their lunchboxes, they need help with stuff.

Just another example of people who have no idea what fuck teachers do.

Social distance from a cheese barm, I ask you!!
 
True_Blue69 said:
Also need to factor that high percentage of those that have died would have died in the next 7 or so months anyway so excess deaths may actually level off a bit by the end of the year. Providing we don't have a big 2nd spike.
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Maybe, we shall see.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
It's amazing how polarised people's positions have become here (and in the US). What the hell happened to the centre ground. When you get a heated debate between two sides the truth is usually to be found in the middle.
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There’s a bunch of people who treat their politics like their football team. I preferred it a few years back when people treated politicians with disdain rather than hero worshipped them. Some people can’t handle any criticism of the handling of the pandemic and some others appear to wish that the numbers of people seriously ill or worse were higher.
 
JamesMCFC said:
Ok, I admit I have come across as a **** with a couple of posts regarding this ( I think this lockdown has had more of an effect on me than I like to admit)

But what I find frustrating is when I hear public sector workers such as teachers saying they want this lockdown to continue. In an ideal world everyone would but we don't live in an ideal world.

PHW will still get paid, they don't have the same worries as I and many millions of people in this country do. I would love to have lockdown until this virus has been eliminated but it's simply not possible.

We are asking workers in the services industry such as ASDA, TESCO to work so why can't we do the same? If everyone is extra cautious we will just have to live with the risk.

When do we agree its safe to go back? Is it when there is only a couple of hundred cases left? How long would that take? Do we wait until there is a vaccine? If there is ever gone a be one?

I fear what is coming next such as civil unrest and recession is gonna be far more devastating than this virus ever was.

Again, I apologise sounding like a **** in the previous posts.
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You're still missing the point. You're propagating the myth that teachers, support staff and kids have been tossing it off for the last 2 months.
 
JamesMCFC said:
Ok, I admit I have come across as a **** with a couple of posts regarding this ( I think this lockdown has had more of an effect on me than I like to admit)

But what I find frustrating is when I hear public sector workers such as teachers saying they want this lockdown to continue. In an ideal world everyone would but we don't live in an ideal world.

PHW will still get paid, they don't have the same worries as I and many millions of people in this country do. I would love to have lockdown until this virus has been eliminated but it's simply not possible.

We are asking workers in the services industry such as ASDA, TESCO to work so why can't we do the same? If everyone is extra cautious we will just have to live with the risk.

When do we agree its safe to go back? Is it when there is only a couple of hundred cases left? How long would that take? Do we wait until there is a vaccine? If there is ever gone a be one?

I fear what is coming next such as civil unrest and recession is gonna be far more devastating than this virus ever was.

Again, I apologise sounding like a **** in the previous posts.
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The classroom situation is quite specific and that has to be taken into account. Some jobs you can feasibly social distance some you can’t. Teaching you definitely can’t imo. You shouldn’t fall into the trap of thinking that teachers generally don’t want to be in school teaching the kids and just can’t be arsed, most of them do. But concerns of being surrounded by a crowd of snotty unhygienic kids in a very enclosed environment at this time rightly causes them concerns. The fact that private sector workers might not get paid if they don’t return to work is not really their problem or relevant to the health and safety of teaching during a pandemic.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
There’s a bunch of people who treat their politics like their football team. I preferred it a few years back when people treated politicians with disdain rather than hero worshipped them. Some people can’t handle any criticism of the handling of the pandemic and some others appear to wish that the numbers of people seriously ill or worse were higher.
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Spot-on. It's strange how tribal people have become. I am old enough to believe that it doesn't matter which political party is in charge because the system ensures that most of us will get shafted either way. For me it's the system that's the problem.
 
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