COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Why do we need to reintroduce measures? Leicester went into lockdown a month ago, but deaths still going down, hospital admissions still going down, so what’s the point?
If they’ve decided they don’t just want to reduce deaths and reduce hospital admissions but want to try to get rid of the virus (which they can’t) then the game is up, the economy is finished and many more people will be dying of non-covid stuff than covid stuff.
If there a worrying stats I guess measures are required but how can the ones proposed make sense when I can still go to the gym tomorrow but can’t have my folks sit in my garden
 
Newsnight report on this was interesting as it showed what happened in Leicester - where it has more than halved the cases over several weeks (as I noted earlier tonight with the numbers) and they seem to be having their lockdown eased to the same level as GM.

But throughout the lockdown both deaths and patients being admitted into hospital with Covid fell on the same slow decline that they have continued to do everywhere. There was zero consequence to the rise in cases in Leicester from these even weeks later.

They seemed baffled but I suspect the same thing will happen in GM too. Indeed the hospital data I reported earlier shows the increase in cases has not (as yet) resulted in any increase in hospitalisation or deaths.

Yes, it early days, and hospitalisation follows testing positive by maybe a week or so and death may follow by several weeks So it might happen in weeks to come.

But it hasn't even after those weeks in Leicester whilst they have slowly gotten case numbers down.

My guess is that case numbers are rising amongst the young and 'invulnerable' and most of them will not get sick enough to need hospital thankfully. And the most vulnerable have got used to lockdown and will still be self isolating even if technically they are told they do not need to.

So we may see spikes in cases but not to any big degree ones in serious illness or deaths.

May not happen like that. But if it does this may just be anther step in the never really abandoned herd immunity policy some doctors have had. Let the young all catch it and build immunity whilst you protect the elderly through fear and separation from the young.

Maybe why trying to keep the young away from the old (even within families) is not as silly a policy as right now it looks if we think of the 'lockdown' as seeming only to suggest doing that by default.
 
From a postal point of view it is Stockport Cheshire. Even though Stockport is in greater Manchester. Daft isn't it
I think it’s just habit and a bit of uncertainty whether people can actually use “Greater Manchester” so just stick with their archaic address.

I live in Altrincham that used to be Cheshire and while some people do still use:
Altrincham
Cheshire

I use:
Altrincham
Greater Manchester

and all my post and parcels get delivered to my door, no problem.

It’s been 46 years now, we all live in Greater Manchester.
 
None of Trafford, South Manchester, Stockport or South Tameside have been in Cheshire since 1974; none of Wigan, Bolton, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Salford, North Manchester or North Tameside have been in Lancashire since 1974; none of East Tameside or East Oldham have been in Yorkshire since 1974... no matter what people still think their address is, no matter what County people would like to live in, no matter if people think Greater Manchester isn’t a real thing.

All ten boroughs are in Greater Manchester, not one street of any of those ten boroughs are in Cheshire, Lancashire or Yorkshire.
Party pooper.
 
Yes but a house 2 doors away last saturday night had a party, 30 people came and brought a sound system, they were all hugging each other as theye arrived. Then for 7 hours tons of under 10s running round outsid ethe house with the adults all partying inside. 2 days earlier we all got the leaflet through the door asking Rochdale people to "not have more than 2 people who don't live there visit your home, and do not touch, hug, or kiss them". And these selfish bastards do that. When we were all isolating in lockdown not one twat from that street checked on my mum not one, yet there they are 2 doors from my mums partying up. So the Nigerian family in mums street don't give a shit. And the people i see from this flats wondow don't give a shit either. I bloody hate it here nowadays, i'm so depressed, i'm dreading the winter, lockdown, we never left this flat in lockdown as to get to the ground we have to walk down slim stairs passing people who do not give a shit about teh virus. so we couldn't risk even getting the exercise - how can i do that to my son again this winter.... Me and my mum and my sister were in mourning that saturday night, my perfect perfect special cat had died of cancer at 5.50pm in my mums lounge on my knee, with us all there talking to her and soothing her. And i spent the night at my mums having my last hours with her before we took her for cremation sunday morning while having to listen to those fucking selfish disease spreading neighbours and their nightclub music. It was a quiet culdesac for the 45 years she has lived there, not any more.
I hate it. I hate life. It's not fair.
Oh and the next door neighbours who have a go at mum as an easy target if ever a car dares to visit her (therefore "blocking them in") didn't say a bloody word to the partying neighbours. No, too scared. Easier for them to pick on a 77 year old than a family of 5 having 30 people round for a disease spreading party.

NO. I can't do this. Thanks to people like the neighbours quoted above im now supposed to leave my 77 year old invalid mum on her own in her house and large garden, again. just like I had to do for 3 months. While I keep my 3 year old locked up in a flat, unable to visit grandma FIVE minutes walk away and play in her garden. She has NO visitors. I have no visitors. I've not been in a shop since march. She's Not been out since march. I don't go to pubs, I've been nowhere since lockdown ended other than taking my son to see his grandma. You won't get anyone less likely to have the virus than us 3 (and my partner who is in the same boat as me). me, my partner, my sister, my 3 year old son, and my mum. We all have been nowhere and know no one. We truly have no friends, no one to see - just my mum. Yet if I take my son to play at grandma's off we go to the police eh. While the people quoted above do what they like and the Asian families in the other 3 houses all have mass meetings. I'll just leave mum to die, like my dad did last year and my cat did on saturday, and we won't see her in winter based on all this anyway so I tell you what fuck it this law abiding dogooder had had enough. Not spending the rest of my life like this. All 24 hours left of it.
 
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Households do not sanitise everything in the house before people come round; do not sanitise everything after people have used or touched them; do not make visitors sit in one spot and the host waits on them hand and foot; houses don’t have a one way system and 2m markings to ensure distancing; many won’t have hand sanitiser, some houses won’t even have any cleaning or washing products of any kind (don’t forget some people’s homes are fucking filthy!); there’s no booking system at peoples homes; and I’ve heard of house parties going on recently with dozens of people from multiple households...
Neither do pubs.
Didsbury golf clubhouse had an empty hand sanitiser at the bar entrance today.
 
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