COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Marvin said:
Looking awkward for Oxford vaccine. US yet to give it the green light to restart trials and without trials how do we determine how significant the risk of adverse reactions are? Unfortunately we do not even know if the illnesses which the triallists had were vaccine related but it seems to have spooked the US regulators.
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Looks like there have been a couple of cases of spinal cord inflammation which would limit mobility.

There shouldn't really be an announcement of what caused them until the trial runs its course or is shut down - the people running it know what they're looking at. Bit odd for US regulators to be iffy over this while UK regulators are happy to continue - I agree that that does look strange.
 
Will this briefing actually tell us what new restrictions they're going to impose or is that left to the politicians for another time?

I feel like I know all of what they're saying because of the updates from @Healdplace
 
Eight per cent of population have antibodies
Sir Patrick says about three million people - or 8% - in the UK have antibodies, meaning the vast majority of us are not protected and are susceptible to the disease.
If someone has antibodies present it suggests they have already had the virus.
The number of people with antibodies is a little higher in the cities - perhaps as high as 17% in London, he adds.

That's a big difference between London and the national average.
 
crooky said:
Will this briefing actually tell us what new restrictions they're going to impose or is that left to the politicians for another time?

I feel like I know all of what they're saying because of the updates from @Healdplace
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Just the 'why', not the 'what'. They discussed what could reduce it, but it was mostly a "what could happen if nothing changes"
 
Blimey ,spain and France having it bad

Briefing

Covid has changed a bit but not enough to change the course of the disease or the severity

Increases of cases started in the 20's now spread to all

Higher cases not down to testing

6,000 new cases a day ,more in hospital and more deaths

Cases doubling every seven days roughly,if this continues we could be back to deaths in the 200's again by october

Immunity - there are cases of reinfection , immunity fades ,8% of the population have had it to date ,leaving the rest of us to getting it

Increasing across the country

Inpatients gone up since Sept 1st ,steady increase , deaths numbers might get a lot worse,back to 200+ deaths by Oct if we continue with this growth rate

Going into winter will increase it, we need to take the next six months seriously , greater than deaths from flu ,much more virilant - Chris whitty

Some good treatments to help,like steroids

Everyone has to do this collectively ,you cannot decide to take your own risks

Social distancing , masks, break the link between households and have covid safe workplace

Vaccines - many in late stage testing ,we are in a good position to find one ,maybe a small amount end of year available, more likely next year if we find one

We must tackle this collectively with the repeated rules,this can move very quickly

Teeing this up for restrictions later today I reckon
 
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blueparrot said:
Eight per cent of population have antibodies
Sir Patrick says about three million people - or 8% - in the UK have antibodies, meaning the vast majority of us are not protected and are susceptible to the disease.
If someone has antibodies present it suggests they have already had the virus.
The number of people with antibodies is a little higher in the cities - perhaps as high as 17% in London, he adds.

That's a big difference between London and the national average.
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No surprise then that up North is seeing rises when compared to London. it's also an incredible statistic when you consider that would mean around 3-5 million were exposed, and that's from studies of people who had antibody tests which isn't everyone! I reckon 10 million have had it to get the deaths we had.

We have only reported around 400,000 detected cases in total since the start meaning our hit rate in detecting cases is less than 10%.

Not good when you rely on that hit rate to decide policy!
 
Thanks for posting the summary Kaz.

NIck Hancock was on This Morning earlier and confirmed Boris is doing a conference tomorrow to give the decision on action. Though he said the decision has not been signed off yet from what he said it has been agreed in essentials and will not be a full national lockdown. Schools will stay open. But pubs may at a minimum be restricted.
 
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NIck Hancock was on This Morning earlier and confirmed Boris is doing a conference tomorrow to give the decision on action. Though he said the decision has not been signed off yet from what he said it has been agreed in essentials and will not be a full national lockdown. Schools will stay open. But pubs may at a minimum be restricted.
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So he doesn't think its all over yet then?
 
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