COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[mexico1970]

I’m reassured by a teacher (my daughter) that children will be taught in small bubbles including meal times and playtimes, everything is being done to protect children and staff it’s taken a long long time to sort it out but its now done.

Thats there school and it’s time parents stood up for their own kids and demand the local authorities do something if schools are not following the correct measures.

Are the school allowing teachers not to wear masks and telling the children they have to wear masks? That's what one of our local schools are doing.

 

[Eds]

There's an argument the virus is currently under control based on the fact that the death rate has been flatlined since the beginning of August. The only major effect of the new measures will be more businesses going under.

Death rate is increasing as are hospitalisations and ventilator usage so that's incorrect, try again

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Forgive me if all of this has been covered on here previously, but I've not been keeping up with this thread or with the news in general recently.

BUT

Early on in this saga as a result of the national "data" we had an enforced "soft" lockdown and as a result (mortality and general infection) cases dropped, however, the economy crashed, so certain restrictions needed to be lifted in order to stimulate the economy;

BUT,

What I can't figure out is why didn't we stagger these restriction lifts?
Why didn't we leave enough of a time gap between each of these easing of restrictions to gather evidence to see which of these changes were effecting the R rate?

We just "went for it" wholescale, almost every day new restrictions were being lifted.
We were told very early on that we could be infected by the virus, but that there was as much as a two week incubation period between infection and symptoms, so, why were there not two week gaps between each of the lifts to work out what had an affect and what didn't?

This is NOT a scientific approach, not even close.

It doesn't make an ounce of sense to me (and I'm supposedly quite scientifically minded), which leads my mind to believe that there is something fairly dodgy about all this, and that we're not being told the whole truth here.

If anybody can come close to giving me a reason I'd be very grateful as my Bipolar mind is kicking in and the conclusions I'm reaching during my manic periods are fairly "conspiracy theorist" :):

 

[Healdplace]

There's an argument the virus is currently under control based on the fact that the death rate has been flatlined since the beginning of August. The only major effect of the new measures will be more businesses going under.

Flatlined? I think that is hard to justify. I am niot making up the England death numbers just posted. They are clearly not flatlined. Thewy may not yet be very high but they are rising almost day by day.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Of 383 new infections in Scotland today

27 are in people over 65
16 are in kids under 15
103 are in the 15-19 bracket
All the rest 20-64

 

[bluejon]

Death rate is increasing as are hospitalisations and ventilator usage so that's incorrect, try again

Death rate is not increasing. Search UK Covid Deaths on google, gives the up to date figures, they have been hanging around the same figures since the beginning of August. Hospitalisation and ventilator usage has gone up a small amount but nothing to imply a larger second wave is on the way.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Reveiwed in 3 weeks, though it's only meeting in houses, 2 households can meet outdoors or in Restaurants, cafes and similar

So,my brother can't come in my house....ok,I get that,and will abide by it.
But,I can sit with him in the pub as COVID can't get me in the boozer,or can't get me till 10:01pm.

 

[bluejon]

Flatlined? I think that is hard to justify.

As per the post above, google "UK Covid Deaths". The numbers have stayed within the same range since beginning of August.

 

[blueinsa]

You can go and see them ,no more than six of you together at the same time is the current rule

We can't. As of tomorrow in Scotland no household visits.

 

[Healdplace]

As per the post above, google "UK Covid Deaths". The numbers have stayed within the same range since beginning of August.

Sorry I am trusting the numbers I see every day. These have all but doubled in 7 days (16 to 29). Those are just the UK hospital death numbers.Without care homes, at home deaths etc added.The ventilator numbers have too. The patient numbers also. Both posted last night in here. That is not 'the same range'.