COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

As I said our HEALTHY youth and young adults should have been packed off to isolated covid holiday camps in the summer for 3 weeks at a time and infected with a low dose of covid when they arrived. Free holiday cheep beer.
There woukd have been no spike now if they had

I could be wrong but I thought you could only have the antibodies for a period of 18 weeks?

 

[cleavers]

The situation in student halls is shocking.

Gov should force all lectures on line and force Unis to give the students their money back.

Be far more effective than shutting pubs and resteraunts.

Daft argument really, if you give the students all their money back who pays for the lectures online ?

Shutting pub/restaurants down will cause businesses to fold, without money to pay for university (online or in person), will effectively force them to fold, so pretty much the same result in 2 different areas of the economy, so which do we need most education or hospitality ?

 

[richardtheref]

And in the North East of England all of our drivers have been asked to help out another depot who have 52 off, either with the covid or self isolating. You can imagine the response

 

[hilts]

As I said our HEALTHY youth and young adults should have been packed off to isolated covid holiday camps in the summer for 3 weeks at a time and infected with a low dose of covid when they arrived. Free holiday cheep beer.
There woukd have been no spike now if they had

They sacked Spike?

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Daft argument really, if you give the students all their money back who pays for the lectures online ?

Shutting pub/restaurants down will cause businesses to fold, without money to pay for university (online or in person), will effectively force them to fold, so pretty much the same result in 2 different areas of the economy, so which do we need most education or hospitality ?

The government has been caught off guard and seemingly not forecasting the mass migration of students.
A competent and none London centric leadership would have foreseen the consequences of students returning and the predictable rise in infections weeks ago.
They should have been told to stay at home and do there lessons virtually.
It's the main driver behind the rise in Manchester and Nottingham and could have easily been avoided.

 

[The Northern Baptist]

What the fuck is a ‘pop score’ @Healdplace ?

 

[cleavers]

The government has been caught off guard and seemingly not forecasting the mass migration of students.
A competent and NOT London centric leadership would have foreseen the consequences of students returning and the predictable rise in infections weeks ago.
They should have been told to stay at home and do there lessons virtually.
It's the main driver behind the rise in Manchester and Nottingham and could have easily been avoided.

As per my post at the top of the page, maybe it was a calculated risk from someone ?

 

[BLUEMATT23]

As per my post at the top of the page, maybe it was a calculated risk from someone ?

Well i dont agree
The attitude and behaviour of the students is causing the rise. They should have been told to stay at home.

 

[lancs blue]

I could be wrong but I thought you could only have the antibodies for a period of 18 weeks?

The whole area of post-infection immunity seems to be uncertain, I don't think there are many concrete studies on whether "herd immunity" is even achievable with this virus. That's why I'm bemused that so many bang on about it as some sort of magic bullet.

 

[Healdplace]

I have talked about the war analogy in here before because I grew up when rationing was just ending and there were bomb sites all over Manchester still. And my parents inspired me with tales of how they did their bit as teenagers/young adults. Volunteer firefighting in the Manchester blitz (my dad) and a land army girl (my mum).

Its not the similarity or difference between Covid and the Nazis as the enemy that is the problem its that then there was only really one source of information and you all trusted it - the BBC. What it said was what was happening. Though spin existed even then nobody was looking for it or presuming it underpinned every decision. It made the desire to stick together so much easier.

Yes there was the odd dispute and some make a buck spivs but the majority saw it as a common battle and there were not a million different versions of every event to disect endlessly with a thousad others at the press of a button.

The internet is a wonderful thing in many ways but it sure has made fighting a pandemic much harder in some regards because it has allowed everyone with a theory - be it sane or crackpot - to have an audience better than even the KIng could command on the radio if some message was in need to be conveyed to the nation.

Our global village of instant communication has fractured the sense of pulling together in your owm small patch of Earth and the oneness that briefly surfaced with the clap for carers and Captain Tom stories was sadly transient. Though emotionally very beneficial when it flickered at the time.

Now we have all been saturated in a bath of Covid theories, hopes, dreams, conspiracy claims and at heart everyone is just trying to make sense and find hope and make this work within their life, their family, their job.

Every human has a coping mechanism in a crisis. Mine is keeping on top of the data as it creates an illusion of control that I know is not real but gets me through the day to feel like I am in some way contributing something useful. At my age a good thing.

Some find trying to uncover what is really happening helpful to them. Hence the multiplicity of argument and theory. Others just want it all to go away and life get back to normal so they put up shields of normality around them to live as if there is no Covid.

There is no right or wrong way to get by here. And we should make space to accept how others need to handle this even if we feel it very wrong. But we really are missing that sense of all in this together which was I think the biggest reason we fought for 6 years and won that war against tyranny. Because far more then trusted others to have their back just as they would reciprocate if needs be.

The internet has brought many benefits but it has made us into a shallow society which now seems to have made arguing and being proven right an art form to be cherished under the guise of made up names and avatars.

Life moves on. So will this terrible period end too. But it is a shame we cannot recapture more of that wartime spirit of community becuse it would get many through these next few months in better fettle than just letting off steam invisibly on a forum.

Though in of itself that does have a part to play in easing the mental angst these torrid times are going to stir into wakefulness like a behemoth rising up from slumber within the depths of our soul.