COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Healdplace said:
I have talked about the war analogy in here before because I grew up when rationing was just ending and there were bomb sites all over Manchester still. And my parents inspired me with tales of how they did their bit as teenagers/young adults. Volunteer firefighting in the Manchester blitz (my dad) and a land army girl (my mum).

Its not the similarity or difference between Covid and the Nazis as the enemy that is the problem its that then there was only really one source of information and you all trusted it - the BBC. What it said was what was happening. Though spin existed even then nobody was looking for it or presuming it underpinned every decision. It made the desire to stick together so much easier.

Yes there was the odd dispute and some make a buck spivs but the majority saw it as a common battle and there were not a million different versions of every event to disect endlessly with a thousad others at the press of a button.

The internet is a wonderful thing in many ways but it sure has made fighting a pandemic much harder in some regards because it has allowed everyone with a theory - be it sane or crackpot - to have an audience better than even the KIng could command on the radio if some message was in need to be conveyed to the nation.

Our global village of instant communication has fractured the sense of pulling together in your owm small patch of Earth and the oneness that briefly surfaced with the clap for carers and Captain Tom stories was sadly transient. Though emotionally very beneficial when it flickered at the time.

Now we have all been saturated in a bath of Covid theories, hopes, dreams, conspiracy claims and at heart everyone is just trying to make sense and find hope and make this work within their life, their family, their job.

Every human has a coping mechanism in a crisis. Mine is keeping on top of the data as it creates an illusion of control that I know is not real but gets me through the day to feel like I am in some way contributing something useful. At my age a good thing.

Some find trying to uncover what is really happening helpful to them. Hence the multiplicity of argument and theory. Others just want it all to go away and life get back to normal so they put up shields of normality around them to live as if there is no Covid.

There is no right or wrong way to get by here. And we should make space to accept how others need to handle this even if we feel it very wrong. But we really are missing that sense of all in this together which was I think the biggest reason we fought for 6 years and won that war against tyranny. Because far more then trusted others to have their back just as they would reciprocate if needs be.

The internet has brought many benefits but it has made us into a shallow society which now seems to have made arguing and being proven right an art form to be cherished under the guise of made up names and avatars.

Life moves on. So will this terrible period end too. But it is a shame we cannot recapture more of that wartime spirit of community becuse it would get many through these next few months in better fettle than just letting off steam invisibly on a forum.

Though in of itself that does have a part to play in easing the mental angst these torrid times are going to stir into wakefulness like a behemoth rising up from slumber within the depths of our soul.
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Great post healdplace. I would also like to add that during WW2 the enemy was probably far more obvious. With the majority of the population involved in the war effort, be it enlisted, or working for the war effort and even witnessing the blitz. The effects and the battle against covid is not so obvious to many and the battle appears to be being fought by the NHS and care workers. Therefore Im sure many are not taking it so seriously.
 
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We could go back to what we were 2 months ago if there was a strict policing of the rules. If the police or an authority went down roads with a number plate recognition gadget and pulled up any car that wasn't registered to that address they'd soon be able to enforce the fucking rules on those tw*ts that have disregarded this from the start.
 
@Healdplace i think in lockdown we did see that wartime spirit for those three months everyone had one aim, however once the great selfish unwashed were released they went back to their ways. I worked throughout lockdown and the world seemed a great place and I was hoping that things would change people but you know what it hasn’t. The self entitled, selfish bastards have reverted to type. Had lockdown been for 6 years I’m sure that spirit would’ve been endured mainly because a lot of people sat on their arses for 80% of their wage and thought it was fantastic.
I really dont know what the answer is to this, but I know one thing if we are relying on the general public forget about it.
 
Manchester1894 said:
We could go back to what we were 2 months ago if there was a strict policing of the rules. If the police or an authority went down roads with a number plate recognition gadget and pulled up any car that wasn't registered to that address they'd soon be able to enforce the fucking rules on those tw*ts that have disregarded this from the start.
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blueparrot said:
Shutting pub/restaurants down will cause businesses to fold, without money to pay for university (online or in person), will effectively force them to fold, so pretty much the same result in 2 different areas of the economy, so which do we need most education or hospitality ?
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Think you’ve got this confused, their rent for halls they should be refunded?

they’d still pay their tuition fees or a portion of them for their on line lectures.

Most of the lectures seem to be on line anyway at the minute, Students at UoM are organising a rent strike because of it.

The arguement is the Unis just wanted the rent payments so got them in knowing they’d be stuck in halls and their lectures would be on line.
 
I have emailed Boris tonight and suggested that when this is all over he should give us an annual Covid bank holiday where people reflect on this crazy year and take the time to spend it with an elderly relative. Suggested mid January as well to break up the shit bit after Xmas!
 
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