COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[yeseye]

I have emailed Boris tonight and suggested that when this is all over he should give us an annual Covid bank holiday where people reflect on this crazy year and take the time to spend it with an elderly relative. Suggested mid January as well to break up the shit bit after Xmas!

More chance of a 6 Day working week!

 

[Blue Llama]

More chance of a 6 Day working week!

Every chance of working 3 days for the tax man and 3 days for yourself for the next 30 years and that's if you have a job. Enjoy your party while you can.

 

[Northernstorirs]

I was going to say its not difficult is it. But, to some, it seemingly is.

my mum has terminal lung cancer, if she cops for covid itll probs finish her off. She knows this, but is happy to take the risk, because whats the alternative? Run scared and be gone soon anyway? Or live whatever life she can whilst she can.

a very noisy few posters on here who dont work for whatever reason , dont care about the economy as much as others as theyll still get there “wage” at the end of each month

Correct, the anxiety and stress for many is unreal at the moment. I know people who have been made redundant or are facing a lot of uncertainty in the private sector whilst many working for public institutions have been immune to this crisis. Seems to be said people who tend to call for draconian measures with out any tact or empathy for folks elsewhere suffering the consequences. I consider myself extremely fortunate my work haven't been impacted and I don't take this for granted. Hopefully this storm will be over next year which will reopen opportunities for many.

Oh you can also add the turmoil of members of the extended family having cancer treatment deferred, I'm not sure things have been prioritized correctly.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Correct, the anxiety and stress for many is unreal at the moment. I know people who have been made redundant or are facing a lot of uncertainty in the private sector whilst many working for public institutions have been immune to this crisis. Seems to be said people who tend to call for draconian measures with out any tact or empathy for folks elsewhere suffering the consequences. I consider myself extremely fortunate my work haven't been impacted and I don't take this for granted. Hopefully this storm will be over next year which will reopen opportunities for many.

Oh you can also add the turmoil of members of the extended family having cancer treatment deferred, I'm not sure things have been prioritized correctly.

The people that want us to stay in generally stay in anyway.
Likewise, im self emp and touch wood its all good at the mo but i know it can turn on a sixpence.
Hence my ‘desperation’ to keep the wheels of industry turning, whilst taking all precautions, and we all come out the other side.

it aint going anywere soon. Learn to live with it, or have no ‘life’

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Correct, the anxiety and stress for many is unreal at the moment. I know people who have been made redundant or are facing a lot of uncertainty in the private sector whilst many working for public institutions have been immune to this crisis. Seems to be said people who tend to call for draconian measures with out any tact or empathy for folks elsewhere suffering the consequences. I consider myself extremely fortunate my work haven't been impacted and I don't take this for granted. Hopefully this storm will be over next year which will reopen opportunities for many.

Oh you can also add the turmoil of members of the extended family having cancer treatment deferred, I'm not sure things have been prioritized correctly.

Don’t worry mate, the public sector always gets hammered in the years after the Government’s coffers decline. It’s not really a good time for cutting hospital staff or public health teams. That said, I agree it was a puss take that Councils closed recycling centres and laid for staff to be at home who could have been tidying public places / gardens during the lockdown. .

FWIW, I’m self-employed.

 

[Northernstorirs]

The people that want us to stay in generally stay in anyway.
Likewise, im self emp and touch wood its all good at the mo but i know it can turn on a sixpence.
Hence my ‘desperation’ to keep the wheels of industry turning, whilst taking all precautions, and we all come out the other side.

it aint going anywere soon. Learn to live with it, or have no ‘life’

Agreed, people aren't being ignorant of the virus either and respect rules in place. It isn't obscene to weigh up the economic consequences causing a drop in living standards, debt, mental health issues, non COVID related illnesses being deferred against the country prioritizing COVID which dominantly impacts the elderly and vulnerable.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

That doesn’t need to be a fact, and can be dealt with next year. The threat to the NHS is this winter and is here now, and must be dealt with now.

The NHS is always under threat every winter and nobody ever does anything about it or gives a toss, save for the poor buggers on trolleys, in corridors or in the backs of ambulances for 30 hours.

 

[blueparrot]

The NHS is always under threat every winter and nobody ever does anything about it or gives a toss, save for the poor buggers on trolleys, in corridors or in the backs of ambulances for 30 hours.

We know. Which makes avoiding adding to it with wards full of covid is crucial.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

If it was only 3% you’d have a point. But then if it was only 3% I doubt governments would be closing pubs at great expense.

Data is being misrepresented by the government and, what’s even worse is that the ’scientists’ are behaving that way as well. The ONS survey is adamant that the vast majority of infections are transmitted at school, university, work and places of worship. Hospitality accounts for 5% or less.
Whitty’s presentation said that 30% of people infected had visited some hospitality previously and the most common thing they did was ‘eat out’, whilst he didn’t even mention work as a risk. Now, if uni students are making up a third of the cases, it’s unlikely that they’ve not been out, in the week prior to testing positive, I’d imagine?

This is the Politicians Fallacy coming into effect, sadly. ’We don’t want to close schools, we don’t want to stop people going to work, we can’t do anything about care homes because our Test and Trace plans have completely failed (what were they doing over the summer), but something must be done, they say. Shutting hospitality is something and, as something must be done, we will do that. Any evidence? Nah, but what does that matter?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Data is being misrepresented by the government and, what’s even worse is that the ’scientists’ are behaving that way as well. The ONS survey is adamant that the vast majority of infections are transmitted at school, university, work and places of worship. Hospitality accounts for 5% or less.
Whitty’s presentation said that 30% of people infected had visited some hospitality previously and the most common thing they did was ‘eat out’, whilst he didn’t even mention work as a risk. Now, if uni students are making up a third of the cases, it’s unlikely that they’ve not been out, in the week prior to testing positive, I’d imagine?

This is the Politicians Fallacy coming into effect, sadly. ’We don’t want to close schools, we don’t want to stop people going to work, we can’t do anything about care homes because our Test and Trace plans have completely failed (what were they doing over the summer), but something must be done, they say. Shutting hospitality is something and, as something must be done, we will do that. Any evidence? Nah, but what does that matter?

makes you wonder. some pubs are defintely implementing strict rules while others are not. i think the later are in the minority tho.