COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[BlueAnorak]

I am 74 years old and have followed all the regulations and guidelines and have stayed well throughout the crisis. However I am getting heartedly sick of how long this is dragging on, what will happen if the Chinese release another one of these viruses every few years?

Well its been so successful at destroying the western economies, they're bound to do it again.

 

[BlueAnorak]

is nicola still blaming the english.

Yep. The day they went to Blackpool...

 

[BlueAnorak]

Whether you think Lancs should be in Tier 3 or not, I think this sounds like bullying

Lancashire council leaders 'bullied' into going into tier 3​

Lancashire was "bullied" by the government into going into the highest Covid alert level, three council leaders from the county have claimed.
In a joint statement, Matthew Brown and Mohammad Iqbal, leaders of Preston City Council and Pendle Council respectively, said the prime minister's officials, led by Sir Ed Lister, were "unwilling to listen to any evidence" and did not present a plan on how the government's proposals would control the virus.
They said schools, retail, the workplace and a minority of non-compliant individuals were behind the majority of coronavirus transmission, but officials told them these and other areas were "off-limits" and "non-negotiable".
"Throughout the negotiations, government officials were only interested in the politics and threatened any district leader who did not fall into line with 10 Downing Street's threats to accept tier three would suffer an imposition of tier three and that their borough 'would become an island' that would receive much less in funding and resource."
Paul Foster, leader of South Ribble Council, echoed the views, describing the discussions as a "complete shambles".

Labours position in worse than the governments.
"Lockdown!" They cry.
"But not us!" They shout.

 

[ganganvince]

Yep. The day they went to Blackpool...

 

[BlueAnorak]

Asia and Africa seem to have come out of this really well so far.

Most people die a lot younger without a health service.

 

[grunge]

I see Whitty the gloom and doom man is clIming daily infections could be as high as 76k a day.
Yet real world studies (ONS and Zoe to name but two) say its 26k a day.
Time for him to be moved asside I think.

He gave 3 different studies with a range in all. Media have picked up on the highest of them all.

 

[Cityfan]

I see Whitty the gloom and doom man is clIming daily infections could be as high as 76k a day.
Yet real world studies (ONS and Zoe to name but two) say its 26k a day.
Time for him to be moved asside I think.

I didn't hear what he said but the number does not appear to be out of line with the ONS figures.
The mid point for England without the other nations in the ONS survey was around 28,000 with the upper end of the confidence interval being around 38,000 but this was last week and their estimation at that point of the doubling time was about 1 week in the report.
On top of that the figure is for positive swabs the sensitivity of the test may be lower than 70% in poeple self administering the test so the figures could easily be 30% higher than the estimated ones.

 

[grunge]

Although they could take vitamin C?

D but yeah. I would 100% recommend everyone take it now.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Long covid needs , i have been at / in hospital three times since march , i am currently using lung function and CT tests , been to see the lung consultant so outpatient as well now , there is estimates it is affecting thousands of us, from memory an estimate of 100,000 will be affected , there are rehab places for us already , this will be a big drain on resources that will have to be factored in

I think this is the issue that a lot of people are missing. The death rate is very low for this virus (fortunately) but the long term impact on the NHS of treating people who are recovering could be huge. This will have a huge impact on other patients with cancer, heart disease, and strokes. The Government should be communicating this. They seem fixated on the volume of tests with no long-term strategy.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Why the fuck they show that graph is beyond me. Back in March and April the numbers were 10-15 times more than those cases reported.

So why claim only 26k per day are catching it now? I hope that’s the case but Whitty said daily infections were likely to be at the higher end of the main survey ranges because there was a time lag with their findings. I took that to mean that he thought current infections were in the 40 odd thousand region that doesn’t seem totally unreasonable to me.