COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Stuck in Sheffield on my own now. I was one of the lucky ones from this year's graduating class, as I managed to secure a place onto a public sector graduate scheme during lockdown (after a year of applications). Moved to Sheffield middle of September into a flat in the centre - the place is a ghost town.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I agree mate. I don’t see how the difference between Tiers 2 and 3 does more than maybe offset the damage caused by introducing the 10pm pub curfew.
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We were in local lockdown in Warrington prior to these tiers. We couldn’t meet people outdoors or indoors but under Tier 2, which we are, we can now meet up to 5 other people in a beer garden. Numbers haven’t really fallen but rules have been relaxed a little by default. I don’t understand that.
A lot of the rules make zero sense and they are being ignored by many, so there is little point to them anyway.

it’s either full lockdowns for a few weeks at a time or nothing for me. These half way house rules are mad and clearly not working.

They had an opportunity to lock down for 2 weeks over half term. Give all the kids two weeks off and order the closure of non essential businesses. They could then have done the same over Christmas and 1st week Jan when no one does anything anyway. If nothing else it would buy a little time.

The financial side is just one of those hits governments have to take. We are in ridiculous levels of debt as a country anyway. What’s another few billion ?
Interest payments on debt are so low that it’s almost interest free lending currently.

We need to get on top of this again now until a vaccine is in sight. All this pissing about is just confusing people.
 
kaz7 said:
Burnham has blown it , the gov are giving the 60 m to councils ,by passing him completely , i really hope it works out for you guys
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i am not sure what difference it makes not going through him?
 
worsleyweb said:
i am not sure what difference it makes not going through him?
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It doesn’t. It wasn’t going into his back pocket. He has succeeded in getting £60m rather than what they were offering despite the government spin. It’s like they have treated it as a business deal, not a matter of people’s livelihoods.
 
ctwrd said:
It doesn’t. It wasn’t going into his back pocket. He has succeeded in getting £60m rather than what they were offering despite the government spin. It’s like they have treated it as a business deal, not a matter of people’s livelihoods.
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Negotiation goes on every min in gov , the health secretary has to negotiate with the chancellor for his budget as does every dept , same with local councils , it is normal
 
GM scoreboard

Manchester 501 - up from 379. Highest in over 2 weeks. Total cases 16,421. Week 2734. Pop score up 90 to 2970 - Manchester will enter the 3000 club tomorrow after it took almost SIX MONTHS going from 0 to 1000 - then 3 weeks to get from 1000 to 2000 and now just 2 weeks to get from 2000 to 3000. Such is how fast this second wave has escalated here. Weekly Pop 494.

Wigan 315 - up from 270 and a bad number for this once best in GM town. Perhaps a poster child for how the 'restrictions' piecemeal in GM since July from which it was at first excluded because its numbers were low - often just 1 or 2 a day - simply exported the cases from locked down towns to unrestricted ones nearby? Which is not going to happen ever again obviously to those near lockdown areas. Total cases 7591. Week 1824. Pop score up 96 to enter the 2300 club at 2310. Weekly Pop 524.

Oldham 254 - up big from 182. To new record here if it matters. Total cases 7226. Week 1254 Pop score up record 108 in day to become first GM borough to enter the (every day more crowded) 3000 club at 3048. Weekly Pop 529. In big scrap with Wigan in GM Red Watch lIst. Even Manchester with 500 cases in their wake. But as you will see below they are trailing far behind others now too.

Rochdale 246 - up almost as much from 181. Another record. Total cases 6433. Week 1271. Pop score up even more than Oldham in the day- 110 - into the 2800 club at 2892. If it is this bad tomorrow could join Oldham and both keep Manchester company in the 3000 club then. Weekly Pop 571 - Rochdale now worst in GM on the UK watch list (in 5 days when the government data from last week catches up that is).

Salford 241 - DOWN (!) from 256. Total cases 6491. Week 1412. Pop score up 93 to enter 2500 club at 2508. Weekly Pop 546. Now worse than Manchester for what was just before GM went into restrictions in July the borough with the best Pop score in GM. Less than a third of what it has now.

Bolton 225 - up from 208. Total cases 8083. Week 1403. Pop score up 78 to enter the 2800 club at 2811. Weekly Pop 488.

Tameside 184 - up from 134. Total cases 5382. Week 968. Pop score up 81 to enter the 2300 club at 2376. Weekly Pop 427.

Bury 162 - up from 143. Total cases 4942. Week 901. Pop score up 85 to 2588. Weekly Pop 472.

Stockport 162 - DOWN from 171 (the two S's only ones to drop today) Total cases 5342. Week 964. Pop score up 57 to enter 1800 club at 1821 - lowest rise in GM today. Also now the ONLY town in GM that is not over 2000 in the pop scores - see below. Weekly Pop 329. Best in GM.

Trafford 152 - up from 138. Total cases 4791. Week 876. Still hanging onto lowest weekly total in GM but rising. And Bury closing in. Pop score up 64 to enter the 2000 club at 2019. Now 198 behind Stockport in the Pop Score table. Weekly Pop Score 370. Only other borough below 400 with Stockport. But both were in the 200s a week or two ago.
 
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