COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[cleavers]

Ive been saying this since the start. Your average teenager isn’t going to watch the News, many won’t even know what time it’s on, some never watch tele and live their lives on their phones or games consoles.

Role models for these people need to be bashing out comments on social media every day to get through to them.

I don't even think it's "to get through to them", I think they've all had the message and are generally sick of hearing it, but if the people they look up to explain why they should be careful to avoid the virus (and it's not just youngsters either), and not spread it, they might follow the regulations.

I also think that with so many regulations in different places (tiers/levels/areas) we need to simplify it, into something everyone can follow, and not some daft slogan every 5 or 6 weeks. I mean how many of the population of say Ilkeston 4 miles from the edge of Nottingham, actually know where the border with Nottinghamshire is ? Yet many probably work there.

 

[mosssideblue]

why? You need to put some meat on the bone ;-)

Not everyone has a bubble.
Often, the only living relatives they have would be those who are "leading their lives" and you expect them not to visit when the elder gets teary?
Not everyone who has Covid knows it and could quite easily infect the loved ones

So, no

 

[mosssideblue]

My daughter is self isolating for two weeks for the second time this term! Her education in her final GCSE year has been ruined by this virus and this utterly incompetent government.

Do you not apportion any blame to those passing on the virus?

 

[cleavers]

does that include shutting schools do you know?

Staying open.

 

[urban genie]

does that include shutting schools do you know?

Only schools, colleges and unis will be home study.

All the rest will lockdown be as was in spring

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Staying open.

Not a lockdown then.

 

[cleavers]

Is this figure right? 376 deaths yesterday?

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United Kingdom COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

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Its not easy to confirm, as when numbers are released many get added to other days previously.

The last 7 days data shows totals of 183, 199, 210, 171 (w), 169 (w), 188, 184, on the day people actually died.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Staying open.

that's interesting, seems like few countries are prepared to go the whole hog again?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I am fortunate as my employer would rather we did not go in. No pressure at all, organisation wide, at least. Of course, it may be different with the odd team here and there.

Is there a reason why your employer wants people back? Does it affect the business? A lack of trust?

I have a suspicion in some organisations, the management don't like it as they think staff may be slacking. I have little sympathy. Managers are paid to manage. They should manage the situation, including the performance management off staff. I work closely with my HR Director and Chief Exec. I know they are aware some managers think a few of their staff are slacking. However, the view of the Chief Exec and HR Director is that they think those managers feel that way because they are incompetent and unable to deal with situation. I agree wholeheartedly.

Ours is a small company (around 150 in our group) and around 10 in our office when full. Personally I think we need perhaps two people in a day for the business to continue operating efficiently. He wants everyone back but on a rota and this includes people close to 60 and a couple with minor health issues. For me there will always be a natural drop off at home but this is offset by the amount of time some staff spent chatting in the office anyway. The government guidance is very woolly on this issue too. They want people to work from home but ultimately left it open to interpretation as to whether this is possible. Our company seem to be veering towards the it’s not possible. I would disagree. It’s very hard to question things too much in a small company though as a couple of people have been made redundant recently (both of who were working from home!

I do think there is some risk in offices as all windows are generally closed at this time of year and familiarity with colleagues can lead to distancing etc being relaxed.

I’m all for getting things moving again where possible but I think there has to be an element of caution too, particularly in the North West.

 

[fulabeer]

Seems Germany who were praised at the start of the outbreak for their rapid lock down and track and trace system, are admitting this may have only put off/delayed the inevitable spread. Just reading they feel they are now still at the start of it with worse to come. Numbers are rising rapidly despite having all the measures they had at the start plus new methods/data.

Reading up on how they reacted at the start, it would seem the only way to reduce the R number effectively is a total lock down again. But that then just puts it off.
If Germany is now struggling (and are deemed to have done everything correctly)it makes you question how much Track and Trace, bubbles and masks really help.
I assume they help lessen the burden on hospitals at least.

An effective vaccine appears to be the only solution long term. This also depending on how long they last as well.