COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Healdplace said:
Btw great news for the North West hospitals today. We stayed over the peak of wave 1 patient numbers that Sky were referring to earlier for one day. And - for now - are back under it.

Patients down 2948 to 2781 today so back 109 below the peak. This is actually LESS patients than 7 days ago when it was 2845. The first time that has happened over 7 days for some weeks.

Ventilators also down from 259 to 229 - again LESS than the 238 on them a week ago.

The NE/Yorkshire health area continues to now have more patients in than the NW which only happened a few days ago for the first time in the second wave.

This is all good news, It can change and yes the many deaths here are a factor but it is hard not to see these as positives.
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Definitely hard not see these as positives. But, rest assured, some will try.
 
Healdplace said:
Very frustrating to hear Granada Reports make a big deal out of a false truth.

Stating that NW has more people in hospital than at the peak in April today. They said that twice.

But that was yesterday.

No mention of the big fall today which means it is not now correct.

If only you could access the next lottery numbers a day before they become the news.

I get why they want to make a story out of this event but they also said the NW has more patients in than any other region and that is not true either.

It was ALL negative and the news from NW hospitals this week has been quite the opposite of that. Nearly all good.

We seem to be acting on old data and then discovering today's truth a few days late. It mis sells the narrative imo. And drives false steps if you base the truth only on the here and now and not the direction of travel.
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Misery loves company.
 
Healdplace said:
Very frustrating to hear Granada Reports make a big deal out of a false truth.

Stating that NW has more people in hospital than at the peak in April today. They said that twice.

But that was yesterday.

No mention of the big fall today which means it is not now correct.

If only you could access the next lottery numbers a day before they become the news.

I get why they want to make a story out of this event but they also said the NW has more patients in than any other region and that is not true either.

It was ALL negative and the news from NW hospitals this week has been quite the opposite of that. Nearly all good.

We seem to be acting on old data and then discovering today's truth a few days late. It mis sells the narrative imo. And drives false steps if you base the truth only on the here and now and not the direction of travel.
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They are reporting yesterdays numbers, perfectly reasonable given how they wont be crunching daily numbers themselves , they also cant guess tomorrows
 
Healdplace said:
GM scoreboard:

Manchester 310 - up from 253. Total cases 23, 958. Weekly 2151. Pop score up 57 to 4334. Weekly Pop down to 390 - first time Manchester has been below 400 in weeks.

Oldham 230 - up from 174. Total cases 12, 273. Weekly 1508. Pop score up 103 to 5176. Only Blackburn higher today. Weekly Pop big drop to 636 (as 174 and even 230 is far better than the numbers it was scoring a week ago).

Wigan 218 - down from 248. Total cases 13, 746. Weekly 1675. Pop score up 66 to 4182. Weekly Pop down big to 509. Same reasons as Oldham week v week big fall.

Bolton 210 - up from 144. Total cases 12, 712. Weekly 1356. Pop score up 73 to 4421. Weekly Pop down to 472.

Rochdale 173 - up from 139. Total cases10, 315. Weekly 1225. Pop score up 78 to 4638. Weekly Pop down to 551.

Salford 157 - down from 160. Total cases 10, 926. Weekly 1208. Pop score up 60 to 4221. Weekly Pop down to 467. First time in 400s in weeks.

Stockport 151 - up from 123 - third straight rise here. Total cases 8889. Weekly 979. Still well below last week so fell sub 1000 for first time in a while giving GM four now with a sub 1000 weekly case total again. There were none 2 weeks ago. A good measure of how numbers have been falling. And others that used to be higher aee falling towards three figures too from what were around or over 2000 not long ago. Pop score up 51 to enter the 3000 club at 3029 - the last GM borough to exit the lower tier. Weekly Pop down to 333. (Again as cases still lower than last week).

Bury 133 - identical to yesterday. Total cases 8126. Weekly 998. Another to crack the 1000 weekly cases barrier today. Pop score up 70 to 4255. Weekly Pop down to 523.

Tameside 121 - up from 118, Total cases 8708. Weekly 913. Another to go sub 1000. Pop score up 54 to 3845. Weekly Pop down to 403.

Trafford 108 - down from 134. Best in GM again. Total cases 7687. Weekly 893. Sub 900 and lowest in GM still but happily now with 3 companions battling it out. Pop score up 46 Best in GM today. To reach 3239, Gap to Stockport now 210. Weekly Pop down to 377.

The weekly Pop Score of every one of the 10 boroughs fell again today - very clear evidence of the improvement.

But it can easily change in the next few days if numbers continue to rise.
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Just over 5% of Oldham have tested positive now.

A different way of looking at the stats from a different perspective.

Let’s hope these vaccines come out as quickly as they are deemed safe. It’s going to be a long grind until then.
 
Saw this on a WhatsApp group and you can guarantee it will be used (somehow) as anti vaxx propaganda.
Any idea?
Presumably to counteract any negative side effects given the scale of vaccination.

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johnnytapia said:
Why didn't they do yesterday's weather?
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I have worked on TV and radio shows so I understand the reality of day to day working there.

But Covid in the NW is not just a story to fit into a news programme. It is THE story of the year and with the NW Pandemic Central they should be accessing up to date numbers and seeing the bigger picture.

Working on radio, TV and the print media I understand the concept of deadlines but also the edge over print media that TV has - immediacy. Someone will have been assigned the job of Covid data collection and be doing what anyone of us can do. And understand enough to see patterns and trends.

Following the biggest story you may ever handle after it happens is lazy journalism. Any journalist worth their salt on a live show would be ahead of the story.
 
somapop said:
Saw this on a WhatsApp group and you can guarantee it will be used (somehow) as anti vaxx propaganda.
Any idea?
Presumably to counteract any negative side effects given the scale of vaccination.

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There is not a drug that I can think of that does not have one unwanted, negative side effect associated with it. Frequently death - like beer, paracetamol, aspirin, etc.

AI software is used in most areas of life these days. When processing large amounts of data, it's now normal to use AI/Machine Learning to try to find every ounce of useful information, every significant pattern, that it contains. There's more AI involved in processing the data created by your google searches, posts, emails, and every other tiny little thing you do on the web, building the unique profile that identifies you on the web and tells advertisers and others how to treat you, than any mortal can reasonably comprehend.

Fun fact, they already use AI and big data to mine social media sites, in order to predict and measure outbreaks of disease. Like, they may get a pretty big clue where a bunch of people catch something, if they all routinely go to the same nightclub on the same night.
 
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