COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[ganganvince]

What the French have done is absolutely correct. If the boot were on the other foot, we would be screaming for our government to do the same.

Yep no way would we even consider giving hauliers exemptions to transport goods across England to allow trade between Ireland and EU.

 

[M18CTID]

What the French have done is absolutely correct. If the boot were on the other foot, we would be screaming for our government to do the same.

Can’t blame any country for doing it. It’s nothing to do with the EU and Brexit IMO because there are already plenty of non-EU countries that have also banned travel from the UK, and more will surely follow.
I do think the ban on freight is a bit much though, although again I don’t think it’s Brexit related. Countries are pulling up the drawbridge in panic over this new strain.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What the French have done is absolutely correct. If the boot were on the other foot, we would be screaming for our government to do the same.

Can you imagine the Daily Express headlines as well?!

 

[mosssideblue]

Can’t blame any country for doing it. It’s nothing to do with the EU and Brexit IMO because there are already plenty of non-EU countries that have also banned travel from the UK, and more will surely follow.
I do think the ban on freight is a bit much though, although again I don’t think it’s Brexit related. Countries are pulling up the drawbridge in panic over this new strain.

Rightly so imo. All countries have suffered and the last thing they need is a more virilant strain being brought into their countries.

 

[Marvin]

Just had a delivery job for Kensington tomorrow cancelled, it was for clothing furniture, etc to be delivered from Mossley for a woman who had moved to London to work a few weeks ago. She's now upping sticks completely and shifting to Greece, apparently there's a mass exodus out of the Capital mostly for Christmas but I'd guess many won't be going back. This is going to spread so quickly in the New Year, feels like the first wave last March was a doddle compared to what's coming, must admit I'm very worried.

Me too, although really if the vaccines are OK, there's a very easy solution.

If they have done prelimary research and it seems OK, merely saying so will be very reassuring. I'd stop flapping for a start providing the info was credible. The worst case scenario is very bad, the most likely scenario is that this is going to be a slow but steady win...quarantine plus targeted use of the vaccine. There's also a reasonable expectation of very large quantities of the Oxford vaccine at the year-end.

The sensible approach for me would be to inform medical authorities around the world of this sequence, and impose tighter controls for all areas with such clusters and then for the WHO/World to collectively distribute a tiny stock of the world's vaccine supply, and dilute the UK cluster. Collective self-interest should triumph here.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Can’t blame any country for doing it. It’s nothing to do with the EU and Brexit IMO because there are already plenty of non-EU countries that have also banned travel from the UK, and more will surely follow.
I do think the ban on freight is a bit much though, although again I don’t think it’s Brexit related. Countries are pulling up the drawbridge in panic over this new strain.

It probably hasn’t made any difference to the French actions but the fact we’re ten days away from no deal puts us in a perilous position. Utterly reckless, completely avoidable and somewhat predictable too.

 

[Marvin]

Can’t blame any country for doing it. It’s nothing to do with the EU and Brexit IMO because there are already plenty of non-EU countries that have also banned travel from the UK, and more will surely follow.
I do think the ban on freight is a bit much though, although again I don’t think it’s Brexit related. Countries are pulling up the drawbridge in panic over this new strain.

We should also use their own self-interest to suggest a solution that's in everyone's interest... take a tiny element of their vaccine supply due from Pfizer (pay if necessary) and ring-fence / protect Londoners and people in Kent, assuming early indications of vaccine's effectiveness are good.

 

[Marvin]

It probably hasn’t made any difference to the French actions but the fact we’re ten days away from no deal puts us in a perilous position. Utterly reckless, completely avoidable and somewhat predictable too.

If I was the German executive and I looked at the UK on my doostep and I could control where 5 million doses of Europe's stock of millions upon millions of vaccine was, I'd allocate them imemdiately to London/SE. Thereafter seek financial trade-off.

Europe has huge vested interest in isolating London and SE effectively and use of collective vaccine supply is an obvious solution.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

We should also use their own self-interest to suggest a solution that's in everyone's interest... take a tiny element of their vaccine supply due from Pfizer (pay if necessary) and ring-fence / protect Londoners and people in Kent, assuming early indications of vaccine's effectiveness are good.

I don't think anyone believes this is contained to London/SE. The Welsh outbreak is said to be driven by it, and the govt has already said it's been detected in all parts of the country. It will certainly be in the community on the continent too.

Border closures will likely only save a few days before community spread overtakes import. It just buys a little thinking time for them.

There's no way we can contain this, we've allowed the numbers to be far too high for that.

All assuming it really is as bad as the early data shows.

 

[ell]

Really hope the supermarkets are quicker off the mark bringing in restrictions on bulk buying, no point telling everyone they can only have three packets of pasta or toilet roll when there is none left!

The media should be embarrassed, almost encouraging the selfish wankers.