COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Postman Pep]

 

[kaz7]

Its not working in that case.

It is their mixed messages that are most alarming,they want individuals to do their bit but what they mean is more confusing than recycling!

 

[SebastianBlue]

Perhaps you could provide the WHO guidance that contradicts the UK governmental stance? Because on their website they specifically say cancelling all mass gatherings is unnecessary.

They also explicitly say that whether it should go ahead depends on the strain on emergency services - just like the government said today.

Here are a few guidance documents from the Points of Entry and Mass Gathering page on WHO’s COVID-19 Technical Resources website, with passage quoted based on your request. There are many, many elements of those officials guidance documents that could contradict the current government’s assessment — and some that could support it. That is one of the reasons I was saying it depends on which experts you were referring to.

You are right that their general guidance is that it is unnecessary to cancel *all* mass gathering, but that does not mean that *all* mass gatherings are necessary or allowing them to continue based on certain phase of an outbreak would be part of an optimal response strategy focused on containment and/or delay of transmission. It also does not take in to account calculation of overall risk, which is addressed more fully in Chapters 1 and 7 in the Public Health for Mass Gathering: Key Considerations guidance document.

I would have to find direct quotes from WHO and CDC officials that have appeared to contradict the current assessment of the current relative risk based on our government’s stated goal (because we aren’t talking about some abstract guidance on mass gatherings for any sort of outbreak, we are discussing it specifically in the context of recent guidance for COVID-19). Again, our discussion is in the context of now, as things stand, not some time prior to now or some abstract scenario apart from the current situation. But I do recall reading a few that would appear to oppose the assessments of relative risk. I apologise for not being able to present them immediately upon request.

Key planning recommendations for Mass Gatherings in the context of the current COVID-19 outbreak
https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1269109/retrieve

Mass gatherings are highly visible events with the potential for serious public health consequences if they are not planned and managed carefully. There is ample evidence that mass gatherings can amplify the spread of infectious diseases. The transmission of respiratory infections, including influenza, has been frequently associated with mass gatherings.1 Such infections can be transmitted during a mass gathering, during transit to and from the event, and in participants’ home communities upon their return.

Public Health for Mass Gathering: Key Considerations
https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/717805/retrieve

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Mendy has just single handedly retained us the title!

 

[SebastianBlue]

its creating panic because no one trusts a word their saying,how anyone can stand there straight faced and say events and school could be damaging if closed, the only thing that gets damaged in that case is the economy so its versus peoples lives,truly schocking and something i only thought the likes of Hitler could be capable of

Think you have gone so far past the line of reason with that last bit that Godwin is waving you back now.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Portugal closing all schools for two weeks from Mon

It’s also because the worst cases of domestic violence and economic stress in households are during school holidays when kids are at home. A lot of welfare officers in schools don’t want schools closing.

A lot of households can’t afford to feed their kids. Schools open in the Summer holidays in some areas so that families who struggle to afford two to four meals a day for a family can have their kids fed.

Not to mention A&E and x-ray departments. They're normally overwhelmed in the school hols.
On a more serious note, I'm having to wipe card machines down with anti bacterial floor wipes as they're all the virus vultures have left us on the shelves. I can't say I'm comfortable with it but I have been getting nods of approval for my perceived belt and braces approach.

 

[SWP's back]

This fucking idiot laughed and joked about Covid-19 with reports and rubbed his hands all over their microphones. He’s not got it and given it a team mate.

 

[Phil1]

I think our leaders are playing a blinder.

1. A lot of older people will die. Solves the pension crisis in one.
2. Self isolate for 7 days. In severe cases the virus acts very quickly, by the time you know its bad its to late. Result the NHS is not overloaded.

I guess some people’s definition of playing a blinder differs from others.

This world deserves a fucking plague.

 

[SWP's back]

In related news, Planet of the Apes is about to start in.... erm... earth

 

[Ban-jani]

Based on it being pretty obvious, after listening to BJ tonight

Sorry but that’s not an answer.