birch villa
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The figures now seem to be rapidly increasing since they told us about herd immunity
Plucked out of his arse would be my guess.Rare breed herd immunity?
I'd heard 60-80% being quoted - wasn't that what the govt officials said?
People can be wrong. If we're to believe this not to be the case, then they need to be more transparent, certainly with other experts.
ATM they are effectively just telling us what will happen 'when the plan works'.
But, for example, as a WHO spokesperson pointed out this morning that the Herd Immunisation strategy wholly depended on individuals generating the required immune responses to this particular virus. And she was lost for any evidence or data at this stage that actually supports the belief that this IS what happens with THIS virus. Which leaves us with the delicate question of wether they are going with the assumption that because it's worked that way with SOME corona viruses, it absolutely will do so in this case.
Apologies if this has already been posted but seems that scientists in Netherlands have identified the antibody.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/14/dutch-researchers-first-find-covid-19-antibodies-report
You'll probably both feel a lot better if you stay away from the doom mongers on here - undoubtedly things will get a lot worse before they get better but 99% of those unfortunate enough to catch this virus will recover and for the vast majority of those it will be a mild illness. Let's hope the government strategy will protect vulnerable groups and keep overall infection levels as low as possible, No country in the world is projected to have more than 10% of their population being affected or a mortality rate in excess of 1% and current data suggests that nowhere will.
I think it has been established he is in generally poor health despite the banana republic medical evaluation results released and is declining rather rapidly. But I do think today and yesterday were the worst we seen for some time, so there may be an added illness. And, if so, you can see why they would be managing him to prevent the optics of him contracting some sort of infection whilst supposedly heading the US government’s response to the outbreak (not to mention him calling the coronavirus a hoax about a week ago before changing tune).I think he's ill, but didn't really sound like he had a cold or similar to me.
There really was no need for him to be there today, and he was in bomber jacket mode, not suit and tie, as if that was all there was time for.
At least Pence will stay on the topic and not indulge in pointscoring.
saw that before online it’s positive news, have said before we need the scientific community to dig us out if this one and we’ve got some world class institutions around the world working on it as well as anti virals - I’m optimistic on that front
I think at his point those that consistently (we’ll all have lapses now and then) *chose* not to take simple steps to optimise personal hygiene (the most basic of precautions) are more than morons.
That does not include those that may not be in a position to optimise personal hygiene, such as people who cannot afford the continual purchase of cleaning agents required to do it properly (or do not have steady access to them) and those with disabilities preventing personal care — they are not *chosing* to avoid these steps.
But those that are wilfully ignoring basic government, WHO, and general health guidance are criminally negligent at best.
I won’t say what they are at worst.
Luckily, I still think those people are a small minority overall.
You will probably be fine, mate.Had to postpone our honeymoon yesterday so gutted about that after booking it 2 year ago. Managed to push it back to end of September so not too bad
Wedding next Friday and shitting it right now. Could lose the lot of it if one of us picks the virus up. Family from abroad (including the mrs dad and brother) might not be able to get over either. Right shit at the moment, but at least we have our health (at the moment anyway). The mrs suffers from very bad anxiety and it’s making her unwell with all the worrying.
You would hope so, I’ve spent my entire working life avoiding/not spreading contamination so most of this is second nature, I can appreciate how it’s all a bit alien to some though.I think at his point those that consistently (we’ll all have lapses now and then) *chose* not to take simple steps to optimise personal hygiene (the most basic of precautions) are more than morons.
That does not include those that may not be in a position to optimise personal hygiene, such as people who cannot afford the continual purchase of cleaning agents required to do it properly (or do not have steady access to them) and those with disabilities preventing personal care — they are not *chosing* to avoid these steps.
But those that are wilfully ignoring basic government, WHO, and general health guidance are criminally negligent at best.
I won’t say what they are at worst.
Luckily, I still think those people are a small minority overall.