COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[George Hannah]

Fact is that nobody yet knows what the mortality rate will be and there’s a good chance that we’ll never know what it was. What is certain is that the mortality rate for the elderly will be higher than the young, it’ll be higher for the poor than the wealthy and it’ll be higher in countries with little or no access to universal healthcare than those that do have that access.
Everything else is just pissing in the wind at the minute and the only thing certain is that anyone who says they “know” don’t.

I know

 

[marco]

You've shown yourself to be a scaremonger saying it kills 4% of people when every article that has been posted says between 1.5 and 2. You claim 20% will be hospitalised based on what?

Bookmark away, will be good for you to read back and next time there is an illness going about you might not worry so much, probably more likely to get ill from the stress.

1.5% or whatever is across the board, now like everyone else on here im only interested in what afects me, im over 50 so my pecentage rate increases to around 7%,my neighbour has hardly any immune system so he's probably around 12%,either way those figures are a little scary if they are correct

 

[SWP's back]

No, not every articles posted sayS 1.5-2%; the current range depending on reputable source is 1-4%.

WHO revised to 3.4% today.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I know

I thought you would....

 

[SWP's back]

Wow you've descended into playground insults, what's next yours Dad is bigger than mine? Embarrassing.

So I post a link from the World Health Organisation to back up my claim and rather than admit you were wrong (yet again) you try and make out that I erred. Where’s your mea culpa?

Wind you neck in as you’re making yourself look incredibly foolish. And I bet he was bigger than yours whilst we’re at it.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I think what as happened in northern Italy is enough to show if it gets a grip in an area it can be a real concern.

 

[SebastianBlue]

WHO revised to 3.4% today.

Yes, I have been discussing that previously in the thread and edited my post to reflect that, but the range still exists (just this morning a separate research group actually put the estimated mortality rate above 4%).

I have taken to referring to all metrics as ‘estimates’ (as they are) and using ranges, because we don’t have concrete information, just educated estimates from various reputable sources.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

im very surprised like you say 50 cases is very low, i do think its rife in this country and TBH i wasnt good last week with hot flushes and flue like symptoms.''i could have had it and passed it on un noticed'' we will find out soon enough,but at the moment its like watching a train crash in slow motion

Ive noticed among my colleagues quite a bit of fairly nasty respiratory illness since Xmas. I had a chest infection /flu thing about three weeks ago and am only just feeling OK again now. Seems true fir quite a few folk I know - the usual winter heavy cold going straight to the chest and people off work for weeks rather than days.

 

[True_Blue69]

No, not every articles posted says 1.5-2%; the current range depending on reputable source is 1-4%, with the WHO stating 3.4% just today. And many, many reputable sources, including the WHO and CDC have the severe case rate around 20%. There are links strewn throughout the thread reflecting these numbers.

You are spouting nonsense, apparently haven’t kept yourself updated on the ongoing guidance, are ignoring links to said guidance, and are continually attempting to wind participants up.

Consider this your last warning.

Last warning for what, not agreeing with people panicking and others opinions? I've read plenty about this and spoke to to doctors who no doubt know more than you and they are saying the same as me. Stop being so melodramatic, it's an Internet forum for opinions not a Nazi society where free speech is banned. Get over yourself.

 

[George Hannah]

"At present, it is tempting to estimate the case fatality rate by dividing the number of known deaths by the number of confirmed cases. The resulting number, however, does not represent the true case fatality rate and might be off by orders of magnitude [...]A precise estimate of the case fatality rate is therefore impossible at present." - See @The Light Was Yellow Sir - he knows
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

 

[Cityfan]

Medical experts think most people went even know they've had it, it can be that mild. Can't believe the scaremongering going on over this, check out how many people died of flu in the US alone on 2018, didn't hear of any flights cancelled or food shortages. 13k died in the UK in 2008 and not a peep. The biggest threat with this are the idiots panicking over something that happens every winter.

I don't know which 'medical experts think this, the WHO are saying most people get a fever and dry cough.
This does not appear to be what happens every winter it is a new virus with an unknown outcome that appears to have a far higher mortality than seasonal flu.

 

[True_Blue69]

1.5% or whatever is across the board, now like everyone else on here im only interested in what afects me, im over 50 so my pecentage rate increases to around 7%,my neighbour has hardly any immune system so he's probably around 12%,either way those figures are a little scary if they are correct

1.5% or whatever is across the board, now like everyone else on here im only interested in what afects me, im over 50 so my pecentage rate increases to around 7%,my neighbour has hardly any immune system so he's probably around 12%,either way those figures are a little scary if they are correct

I agree the figures are scary if you're in those age brackets or have underlying conditions. Hope you and your neighbour stay healthy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

My Armageddon shop is looking increasingly prescient...

 

[SWP's back]

Last warning for what, not agreeing with people panicking and others opinions? I've read plenty about this and spoke to to doctors who no doubt know more than you and they are saying the same as me. Stop being so melodramatic, it's an Internet forum for opinions not a Nazi society where free speech is banned. Get over yourself.

Bye then x

 

[George Hannah]

Last warning for what, not agreeing with people panicking and others opinions? I've read plenty about this and spoke to to doctors who no doubt know more than you and they are saying the same as me. Stop being so melodramatic, it's an Internet forum for opinions not a Nazi society where free speech is banned. Get over yourself.

I think you should restrain yourself

 

[George Hannah]

My Armageddon shop is looking increasingly prescient...

a model 'just in time' process

 

[purplenose]

you cant disguise the flu figures and you are correct that many lives are lost, i caught the end of an interview today and some guy was saying when this is in peak there will be 3 deaths on the average sized street in the UK,now we dont know if thats bullshit or fact but lets sugest the homework has been done and it turns out correct,when was the last time you heard of anyone dying of flue in your street,certainly yes its being ramped up by the media but im not 100% sure Borris and Co are being completely honest, lol, maybe ive been part brainwashed by the media but i do think there is something a little more sinister with this and its not being released

When they flew those people of the Ship straight to Boscombe Down from Tokyo I took a similar view to you.

Boris being honest, No chance.

There should be stronger action now, but a few hundred thousand peasants dead will be a small price to pay in order to minimise the damage to the economy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

a model 'just in time' process

I’m avoiding depleting my stocks by maxing out on Deliveroo whilst it’s still functioning.

 

[Indaparkside]

It effects the elderly who are not in the best of health, got my jelly and custard ready just in case there is an empty seat at the swamp when we play them

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Getting increasingly bored of people saying it’s all hype. Must make people feel cool when they make out it is hype. Fair enough, no need to panic, but being ignorant to an illness that has potential to kill millions of people doesn’t sit right with me.