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Chippy_boy said:
Agreed. My bad. I don't know why but for some reason the calculator didn't include the personal allowance when I ran it. I ran it again and it did. Your take home would be £20,538, so close to £20,000 but not more.

That said, if you were on £30,000 a year then you'd get £24,000 with 80% of gross, or £23,938 if on full pay, taxed. So in that case, I would be right (just!) ;-)
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I'm disappointed that you made the fundamental mistake of excluding the personal tax allowance. I am beginning to doubt all your excellent calculation, analyses and hypotheses on the covid data. Signed a sadly disillusioned follower...
 
The 115 deaths today in the UK is only for 3/4 of the day due to the change in process where each hospital has a running total of confirmed death statistics that they can't fuck up like they did yesterday (with double counting and no counting).
It should have been around 180/190 if done as previously.
 
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There are only two ways we can depress the infection rate:
  1. Social distancing
  2. Testing
We're not doing either to the maximum. The PH spokesperson in the press conference claimed it was not appropriate to this stage in the epidemic, well if you can take people out of the transmission chain at any time it's appropriate. The testing supply constraint is a harder problem to solve but I look at the testing numbers in the USA and they now completely dwarf the UK in absolute and per capita terms. They can obtain supply, the UK can not? The UK was testing a lot of people, we aren't now. We're just using testing now for clinical diagnoses and to test health workers.
 
jay_mcfc said:
No mate, this was a 24hr period from 5pm Tues-5pm Weds. Yesterday's result were only from 9am Tues- 5pm Tues.

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The testing figure are 9 am today but the fatalities are till 5pm yesterday.
That being the case these fatalities should have been included in yesterday's figures and would totalled 156 deaths yesterday, which is a massive jump from the previous day's 89 iirc, when the total figure put out for yesterday was 43 deaths UK wide.
So that means we are 24hrs behind in the death figures.
 
jay_mcfc said:
In terms of Italy the recent death rates were:

Sat 793 (highest so far)
Sun 651
Mon 601
Tues 743
Weds 683
Today 712

It's sad they haven't decreased further since Monday but hopefully that 793 will be the highest when all is said and done.
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Those numbers are to be expected tbh too, given the number of cases has only stagnated this week. I wouldn't be surprised to see it stay at that for a week or so.
 
if you need resus in a UK hospital today, you are dead. They do not have the staff or level of protective equipment to perform this activity safely.
Any one working with Coronavirus patients can confirm this.
You only had a 25% chance of long term survival if it happens in hospital anyway. You had a 45% chance if it happened before you got to hospital and were put on medication.
 
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jay_mcfc said:
This is a 24hr period. This is from the official government department of health and in the thread it tells you it's from a 24hr period.

Edit: I would guess the 36hr period was from Tues when the deaths were 87.
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DOH twitter is essentially clear, but it's still very easy to get the wrong idea on matters like this.

Yesterday’s figures did not cover a full 24 hour period while we adjust to the new system. These figures comprised the period from 9am 24 March to 5pm on 24 March. Figures issued today are recorded as of 5pm 24 March to 5pm 25 March.
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So;

Until yesterday we were given the figure for deaths in the 24 hours recorded at 9am that morning.

We are now given the figure as recorded at 5pm the evening before.

Yesterday's figure was thus for the 8 hours between 9am and 5pm on the day before.

Today's and future figures are for the 24 hours leading up to 5pm the day before the figure is announced.

If we look at the entire series of figures, from here on, we are recieving those figures 16 hours later, and so whilst yesterday, the total number of deaths covered x number of 24 hour periods, from today we must say we have the total for x number of 24 hour periods, minus 16 hours.

I'm very sad to correct anyone here but I'll say it again for clarity - Over the last two days, we were given one set for 8 hrs, and one set for 24 hrs.

What is clear is that the latest figure for a 24 hour period amounts to an increase in the total number of deaths of ~25%. Very, very much in line with the exponential growth we've come to expect in countries at this stage. We hope the effect of social distancing bites pretty hard in a week or two, because if the govt is correct, and we reach our peak around the same time, we would otherwise seem to be odds on for more deaths per day than Italy.
 
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its got to the point that anybody not listening and going out for no reason should be made to face the people that have died and then warned and fined

had to do some shopping today and still people out and about in groups walking around like nothing has happened ? i seen 4 young lads just walking in a group laughing and messing about. if i had a gun i would have shot them myself the crazy twats. they are scum and don't really need anymore time on earth and they should be swapping places with somebody else that have died of this virus that did not want to
 
Summerbuzz said:
DOH twitter is essentially clear, but it's still very easy to get the wrong idea on matters like this.



So;

Until yesterday we were given the figure for deaths in the 24 hours recorded at 9am that morning.

We are now given the figure as recorded at 5pm the evening before.

Yesterday's figure was thus for the 8 hours between 9am and 5pm on the day before.

Today's and future figures are for the 24 hours leading up to 5pm the day before the figure is announced.

If we look at the entire series of figures, from here on, we are recieving those figures 16 hours later, and from today we can say we have the total for x number of 24 hour periods minus 16 hours.

Yesterday's figures are for an 8 hour period rather than the 24 we had been getting.

I'm very sad to correct anyone here but I'll say it again for clarity - Over the last two days, we were given one set for 8 hrs, and one set for 24 hrs.

What is clear is that the figure for the last 24 hours amount to an increase of ~25% in total deaths. Very, very much in line with the exponential growth we've come to expect in countries at this stage. We hope the effect of social distancing bites pretty hard in a week or two, because if the govt is correct, and we reach our peak around the same time, we would otherwise seem to be odds on for more deaths per day than Italy.
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Though this tweet from the 24th makes it more confusing. Saying as of 1pm on that day deaths were at 422. So was yesterday’s number just from 1om till 5pm on the 24th?

You have to open the full tweet to see where it says this.

 
BlueAnorak said:
The 115 deaths today in the UK is only for 3/4 of the day due to the change in process where each hospital has a running total of confirmed death statistics that they can't fuck up like they did yesterday (with double counting and no counting).
It should have been around 180/190 if done as previously.
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It sounds like these figures have been more massaged than Lawrence Dallaglio
 
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