COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[worsleyweb]

Going to put the Christmas lights up today. Try and lift the neighbours spirits.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Good to see we have our priorities in order.

 

[give it to gordon]

Must admit i was in an asda the other day And the only 2 without masks were 2 45 ish year old blokes who seemed to be staring at people waiting for a reaction

The mask thing is interesting and I dont really know how to say it. We have a big building site opposite were I work. Most of the workers are from eastern Europe. They shake hands every morning, no social distancing what so ever and in the town shops they dont wear any masks. I was on the bakers the other day when 6 walked in together ignoring the 3 only in at anytime, ignoring the masks to be warned signed, I just left. Our rate has doubled within a week.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Worse was when we had bombs being dropped on us,

Actually, COVID has already killed more than the Blitz.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The belfast one has had patients for a while , a nurse with covid died there a couple of weeks ago . I dont know how many who came back have stayed , we must have the numbers to ,as you say , be able to use the nightingales

The Trusts are supposed to do risk assessments on staff so if many of the returnees were from vulnerable groups, I doubt the majority of the returnees would be risked on frontline Covid work

 

[kaz7]

The Trusts are supposed to do risk assessments on staff so if many of the returnees were from vulnerable groups, I doubt the majority of the returnees would be risked on frontline Covid work

A lot of the frontline workers are in the vulnerable group , if you took out all of those we could probably only man one hospital per health authority which is why the shield the vulnerable is a complete nonsense concept

 

[Healdplace]

Think this year all the Christmas TV ads will have to be shown backwards.

Coca Cola trucks will not be coming over the hill, but going into reverse and heading back to the depot.

 

[give it to gordon]

A new National lockdown but schools carry on. I dont get it.
So hundreds of school kids on buses, trains etc. Hundreds of school kids walking from the train station/bus stops in large groups shoulder to shoulder no masks. Than playing football in the play ground at lunch break. I just dont understand how this works, perhaps the kids should be made to stay at school 24/7 so they dont go home and spread it to their parents !

 

[kaz7]

If you want dec 25th then you just have to suck up restrictions now , people travelling and mixing then will cause a huge spike a week or two after as it is , supress the virus ahead of that is absolutely needed

 

[kaz7]

A new National lockdown but schools carry on. I dont get it.
So hundreds of school kids on buses, trains etc. Hundreds of school kids walking from the train station/bus stops in large groups shoulder to shoulder no masks. Than playing football in the play ground at lunch break. I just dont understand how this works, perhaps the kids should be made to stay at school 24/7 so they dont go home and spread it to their parents !

Sending students back to uni was the worst idea going , the numbers of infections in school has rocketed , boris decided to die on the education hill and it was obvious what would happen

 

[give it to gordon]

Sending students back to uni was the worst idea going , the numbers of infections in school has rocketed , boris decided to die on the education hill and it was obvious what would happen

Agree it all start to rise again as soon as the schools and colleges open.

 

[abu13]

I am just hoping that whatever they decide to put in place is actually a logically thought out process rather than another knee jerk reaction.

We have had 7 months to plan for a worst case 2nd wave, the least I am expecting from a Government is a sensible workable plan.

 

[kaz7]

I am just hoping that whatever they decide to put in place is actually a logically thought out process rather than another knee jerk reaction.

We have had 7 months to plan for a worst case 2nd wave, the least I am expecting from a Government is a sensible workable plan.

They were given the maximum infection level we could cope with and what whitty said there would be and he has let it go past before acting , allowing for the lag of new restrictions , he has wasted about six weeks , behind as we were before , learning is zero

 

[SiMCFC]

Sending students back to uni was the worst idea going , the numbers of infections in school has rocketed , boris decided to die on the education hill and it was obvious what would happen

The left leaning politicians on the whole were those who were advising people needed to get back to education though...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but the way this has been played out by politicians on both 'sides' is abhorrent and they have shown the Country the sort of scum we have a choice of voting for. I wish hibernation was an option for Humans! If ever there was a time for politicians to act in one common interest it was during a pandemic and they couldn't do it.

 

[Healdplace]

For those asking about if or how Tier 3 has been working (or not) - here are the Liverpool numbers from 6 October - a week before those measures came in and last two weeks.

Is it working based on these - or not?

Wk starting 6 Oct 562, 584, 576, 454, 358, 456, 562, (Weekly Total 3552)

Wk starting 13 Oct 493, 433, 442, 383, 336, 265, 516, (Weekly Total 2868)

Wk starting 20 Oct 409, 384, 356, 294, 204, 207, 314 (Weekly Total 2168)

These are the actual numbers for that date AFTER reallocation to the day. Up to 26 Oct - last reliable date to have all tests allocated.

I think that suggests there has been an effect and the numbers in that city have obviously fallen.

Whether it is coincidence, the school/university numbers waning and being why numbers were high before them, or the tier three restrictions - another matter,

But the data falling is clearly real.

 

[Cityfan]

A lot of the frontline workers are in the vulnerable group , if you took out all of those we could probably only man one hospital per health authority which is why the shield the vulnerable is a complete nonsense concept

I don't think front line health care workers are more vulnerable than average, possibly slightly less.
However it doesn't make what you say untrue. The vast majority of patients attending for whatever reason are in the vulnerable groups and in order to protect them adequately you need high levels of staffing in order to allow people not to move between areas and to properly decontaminate between seeing patients, high levels of bed occupancy and high levels of staff sickness and self isolation make this difficult.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Sending students back to uni was the worst idea going , the numbers of infections in school has rocketed , boris decided to die on the education hill and it was obvious what would happen

Students get Covid, I understand that, but I think they als deal with it. How many of the 750 Northumbria University students (about which there was an almighty outcry) that tested positive showed symptoms and were ill, and were admitted to hospital, and were put on a ventilator and eventually died...? I guess a big fat zero.

That is why the press hasn't told us this. They haven't followed through on their big story of the day - what a surprise!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Now Sean Connery has died FFS. What a grim time.

 

[kaz7]

I don't think front line health care workers are more vulnerable than average, possibly slightly less.
However it doesn't make what you say untrue. The vast majority of patients attending for whatever reason are in the vulnerable groups and in order to protect them adequately you need high levels of staffing in order to allow people not to move between areas and to properly decontaminate between seeing patients, high levels of bed occupancy and high levels of staff sickness and self isolation make this difficult.

There are a lot of BAME and overseas staff , lot of overweight and problems that come with that , lots of older staff , i dont know about average numbers but there are obvious issues , shown by the number who died

 

[True_Blue69]

My gym is still at 0 recorded cases for members and staff (I know others won’t be). The coffee shop I go to is the same.

They’re the only two places I go to other than my essential places of the supermarket and work.

There is better social distancing and far better constant sanitising at the gym than in the supermarket and work.

If we don’t want to shut schools, it’s the social mixing in houses which needs the most attention. Closing the businesses that are barely or aren’t contributing to the spread, isn’t going to do anything but potentially send these places out of business.

Most gyms in Europe will be mate, only 627 linked cases out of an estimated 62 million visits. Hopefully the government see the benefits of keeping these open. The chances of needing hospital treatment through covid caught in a gym, is less than the chance of needing it for being unhealthy. Save the NHS keep gyms open.