COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[roubaixtuesday]

For sure social isolating isn't great, but my point was, had we as a country all fought this as one, this second lockdown might not have been needed.

Agree with that too.

 

[Barcon]

Smooth

And then she stabbed me with a needle.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

No wonder it takes us forever to get things done if something anyone on here could probably have written in 5 minutes needed meetings and debate to turn into a list that can then be leaked

It wasn't leaked, it was published a few weeks ago.

And I do think having a process, and being transparent with the outcome, even if we think it's obvious, is actually a very good model to follow. Indeed, if similar had been done in other areas (criteria for lock downs, for example) we might be in a better position now.

 

[stonerblue]

And then she stabbed me with a needle.

Whatever floats your boat mate. I'm not here to judge..

 

[Two Gun Bob]

If you dont want to take the vaccine then fine, but just make sure you have your own health care insurance so you pay for your own covid care if you need it. As I certainly dont see why I as a tax payer should be paying for it.

An over simplified analogy from one as intelligent as yourself, therefore to coin a phrase..it must be tongue in cheek. Bevin said our welfare state was set up for all, including smokers, drinkers, fat people, partakers of extreme sports, drug abusers and even folk that wish to make their own educated or uneducated choice re vaccination. We are all tax payers and pay into "the pot" and nobody should be peer pressured into taking a vaccine if they do not feel confident to do so. Regarding choice I just opened a packet of Tesco cod fillet for my tea and the stench was horrendous. As I was preparing my parsley sauce the wife asked if I was actually going to eat it as it spelt so strong. As I prepped the sauce on the pan she hastily rushed the loins outside, binning them with extreme prejudice. The packet said eat by the 4th November which I had overlooked, however it was hermosetically sealed in my opinion should have still been good to go. If I was wheeled into casualty would it have been right and fitting for them to refuse treatment for making a bad life choice by imbibing parasitically laden-ed bacteria that caused me to wretch of scomboid fever. Why no, because I will have just made a poorly executed choice by not reading and availing of the use by date. Before I have the vaccine I shall do my own research and if and when I am good and ready then I may or may not allow my self to be injected.

 

[Coatigan]

I read somewhere that getting the vaccine carries a significant risk of your 5g stopping working.

 

[Shellac]

I agree re following the rules, but I do think social isolation is very damaging.

Just less damaging than covid

As Covid is less damaging than cancer.

 

[N1985]

I read somewhere that getting the vaccine carries a significant risk of your 5g stopping working.

It's fine though because if you point your cock at the TV it will change the channel

 

[blue b4 the moon]

It's fine though because if you point your cock at the TV it will change the channel

Haha reminds me of when I was a kid I convinced my mate that if he cut a 26.1cm piece of string, pissed on it and held it next to his ear close to the Masts on Ashton Moss he'd pickup Piccadilly radio.

 

[Healdplace]

Very frustrating that Boris never got to tell the people this other great news as the figures were so late.


GM had its lowest numbers for over a month today and is back looking almost exactly as it did in September before the schools/uni rises that led to tier 3.

Now back when cases were at a similar level and most boroughs were very close to one another in numbers and half of GM was not in the 200s or 300s every day.

Only Manchester today was over 200 and it had its best numbers in weeks.

Yes even Wigan was below 200!

The GM total today was its lowest in many weeks at 1404 - 147 down on yesterday despite more cases nationally today.

That is nearly 1200 less than 4 days ago and 998 less than 3 days ago.

But it was not just GM. The total was still 50% of the NW as everywhere else regionally was low again too.

 

[Healdplace]

Pity that yet another cock up of the web site delayed figures by hours meaning it missed all the regional news programmes too and many who read it on here have likely given up and gone.

If I was of a mind to think conspiracies......

But I suspect given the track record cock up is way more likely.

Unfortunate nonetheless that most people will miss this news today.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

As Covid is less damaging than cancer.

Right. We often get outbreaks of cancer taking out our entire nation's hospital intensive care capacity at a stroke, do we?

 

[Shellac]

Right. We often get outbreaks of cancer taking out our entire nation's hospital intensive care capacity at a stroke, do we?

How many days have the deaths with Covid been greater than deaths from cancer?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

How many days have the deaths with Covid been greater than deaths from cancer?

How many days have ICUs been taken out by cancer patients?

You're trying to make ridiculous and meaningless comparisons.

 

[Healdplace]

Either the NW is peaking naturally or tier 3 has worked as GM is now replicating the same kind of drop we saw in Merseyside after they entered tier 3 first.

Liverpool 21 days ago 478, 14 days ago 295. 7 days ago 192 and today 186.

Knowsley 21 days ago 175, 14 days ago 138, 7 days ago, 61 and today 64.

Wirral 21 days ago 168, 14 days ago 133, 7 days ago 121 and today 74.

So this has not been a short term fall on Merseyside.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Pity that yet another cock up of the web site delayed figures by hours meaning it missed all the regional news programmes too and many who read it on here have likely given up and gone.

If I was of a mind to think conspiracies......

But I suspect given the track record cock up is way more likely.

Unfortunate nonetheless that most people will miss this news today.

I was a bit shocked to hear on the news that 600 staff are sick or isolating at Derby NHS Trust. The staff are finding the virus tougher in busy hospitals this time around because they are trying everything to deliver the “routine” work as well as the Covid care. In the first wave it was virtually all Covid patients.

 

[Shellac]

If it's about saving lives why was it ok for 3 million cancer screenings to be cancelled between March and September?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

If it's about saving lives why was it ok for 3 million cancer screenings to be cancelled between March and September?

It wasn’t OK. The scanners were in parts of many hospitals that were overrun with Covid patients. Sir Simon Stephens said during the presser last week that he was confident that funding had been secured for many extra scanners to be funded and placed in the community so diagnostic tests could be maintained in future.

 

[cleavers]

Because it also puts the rest of the population at risk.

Surely though, it only puts those not having the vaccine at risk ?

How am I more at risk, if I'm vaccinated ? (Obviously it could wear off over time.)

 

[inchy14]

An over simplified analogy from one as intelligent as yourself, therefore to coin a phrase..it must be tongue in cheek. Bevin said our welfare state was set up for all, including smokers, drinkers, fat people, partakers of extreme sports, drug abusers and even folk that wish to make their own educated or uneducated choice re vaccination. We are all tax payers and pay into "the pot" and nobody should be peer pressured into taking a vaccine if they do not feel confident to do so. Regarding choice I just opened a packet of Tesco cod fillet for my tea and the stench was horrendous. As I was preparing my parsley sauce the wife asked if I was actually going to eat it as it spelt so strong. As I prepped the sauce on the pan she hastily rushed the loins outside, binning them with extreme prejudice. The packet said eat by the 4th November which I had overlooked, however it was hermosetically sealed in my opinion should have still been good to go. If I was wheeled into casualty would it have been right and fitting for them to refuse treatment for making a bad life choice by imbibing parasitically laden-ed bacteria that caused me to wretch of scomboid fever. Why no, because I will have just made a poorly executed choice by not reading and availing of the use by date. Before I have the vaccine I shall do my own research and if and when I am good and ready then I may or may not allow my self to be injected.

Love it Bob as usual...