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I really do despair, we are in the middle of a pandemic, lives are being lost yet still there is endless hysteria about fucking Xmas.

Ban it for the year, end off. Its a royal pain in the arse at the best of times but this year FFS? Thousands dead and people are still kicking off because they might not get to go on the lash wearing a cringe worthy jumper and behaving like a prick, and having all the relatives whom they dont like come round to eat mince pies and talk shit.

Get real, all that bullshit can wait until this thing has been beaten.
 
I really do despair, we are in the middle of a pandemic, lives are being lost yet still there is endless hysteria about fucking Xmas.

Ban it for the year, end off. Its a royal pain in the arse at the best of times but this year FFS? Thousands dead and people are still kicking off because they might not get to go on the lash wearing a cringe worthy jumper and behaving like a prick, and having all the relatives whom they dont like come round to eat mince pies and talk shit.

Get real, all that bullshit can wait until this thing has been beaten.
Christmas is an important time for many people such as grandparents etc and it will be the last christmas for some.

People can still have a relatively normal day providing they self-isolate and bubble correctly. There's so many ways to do it responsibly. Back in September I could walk into a pub or restaurant with 6 people from different households no worries, you could go into work today and mix with 50 households no worries.

Why can't I have Christmas with 6 people that will self-isolate for a week beforehand?

Banning it is pointless because no matter what people will completely ignore the rules. It makes far more sense to create advice and rules that will enable people to be responsible.

You can absolutely bet your house that even the people making the rules will break them as we've seen continually over the last 8 months.
 
Christmas is an important time for many people such as grandparents etc and it will be the last christmas for some.

People can still have a relatively normal day providing they self-isolate and bubble correctly. There's so many ways to do it responsibly. Back in September I could walk into a pub or restaurant with 6 people from different households no worries, you could go into work today and mix with 50 households no worries.

Why can't I have Christmas with 6 people that will self-isolate for a week beforehand?

Banning it is pointless because no matter what people will completely ignore the rules. It makes far more sense to create advice and rules that will enable people to be responsible.

You can absolutely bet your house that even the people making the rules will break them as we've seen continually over the last 8 months.

Highlighted the problem there for you.

I am sure you are one who could behave responsibly but sadly you are a small minority. More so when you throw gallons of booze into the mix and millions of women hysterically buying as much shite as they can in the shops for weeks...presumably this year potentially condensed into days! Madness.

I understand how important Xmas is to many, but then to me the three trips to the Balkans and a couple to Portugal, not to mention several airshows gone down the bog this year...all much more important to me than Xmas. Of course it might be the last Xmas for some, but you cant think like that. It could be all of our last Xmas as there might be a nuclear war, or Yellowstone might blow......

There will be an Xmas next year, I will go to the Balkans and Portugal next year and probably appreciate them more than ever.

Now is the time to face a reality and that is just short of having a vaccine we could manufacture a catastrophe through pure stupidity. We should do everything possible to get through the next couple of months as unscathed as possible and if that means for just one year Xmas being binned then so be it in my book.
 
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What does that even mean?

In a pandemic, you can “feel” any way you like. Trouble is, the virus doesn’t care how you feel!

My family come before Govt & dickheads, too, which means we are NOT having anything other than a NUCLEAR FAMILY Thanksgiving and Christmas this year. My nephew is immuno-compromised, and my In-Laws are in their 80s, so our usual 10 for all family occasions will be a 4-4-2...just to keep this about football...with the three branches of the family (Parents, son & daughter) celebrating with their own respective households.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Not understanding mine is your prerogative.
From what I have seen and read about the good ole USofA is your lockdowns haven’t been anyway near as severe as here.
 
I really do despair, we are in the middle of a pandemic, lives are being lost yet still there is endless hysteria about fucking Xmas.

Ban it for the year, end off. Its a royal pain in the arse at the best of times but this year FFS? Thousands dead and people are still kicking off because they might not get to go on the lash wearing a cringe worthy jumper and behaving like a prick, and having all the relatives whom they dont like come round to eat mince pies and talk shit.

Get real, all that bullshit can wait until this thing has been beaten.
I don’t want to do any of those things. I want to take my mum to church on what will be her last Christmas with us, take my elderly aunt to visit my Dads grave and go for lunch, see my baby granddaughter at some point. At present I can’t do any of those things. There has to be some sort of compromise.
 
I really do despair, we are in the middle of a pandemic, lives are being lost yet still there is endless hysteria about fucking Xmas.

Ban it for the year, end off. Its a royal pain in the arse at the best of times but this year FFS? Thousands dead and people are still kicking off because they might not get to go on the lash wearing a cringe worthy jumper and behaving like a prick, and having all the relatives whom they dont like come round to eat mince pies and talk shit.

Get real, all that bullshit can wait until this thing has been beaten.
I just hope that all those claiming they are going to ignore the rules aren't complain when further lockdowns are needed.

Just delay Christmas until it is absolutely safe
 
I just hope that all those claiming they are going to ignore the rules aren't complain when further lockdowns are needed.

Just delay Christmas until it is absolutely safe
When is life absolutely safe?
My mother died at 53, brother in law at 56 both from treatable conditions their doctors missed.
I have worked in schools where accidents outside have killed an 11 year old and a 14 year old..
I‘m not advocating mass walkouts with gatherings of hundreds, or not wearing a mask in shops, but I do believe we are entitled to make some decisions for ourselves.
Its illegal for me to meet my daughter. Yet she is expected to go to work every day and meet other people’s daughters.
 
I had a dream last night that I had a test and I had antibodies. It was the happiest i'd felt in ages. Then I woke up lol.
 
When is life absolutely safe?
My mother died at 53, brother in law at 56 both from treatable conditions their doctors missed.
I have worked in schools where accidents outside have killed an 11 year old and a 14 year old..
I‘m not advocating mass walkouts with gatherings of hundreds, or not wearing a mask in shops, but I do believe we are entitled to make some decisions for ourselves.
Its illegal for me to meet my daughter. Yet she is expected to go to work every day and meet other people’s daughters.

Absolutely agree.

Grandson was sent home yesterday for 14 days isolation and his brother my other grandson is going to the same school and he's in school today.

In what parallel universe is that effective in any way whatsoever?
 
When is life absolutely safe?
My mother died at 53, brother in law at 56 both from treatable conditions their doctors missed.
I have worked in schools where accidents outside have killed an 11 year old and a 14 year old..
I‘m not advocating mass walkouts with gatherings of hundreds, or not wearing a mask in shops, but I do believe we are entitled to make some decisions for ourselves.
Its illegal for me to meet my daughter. Yet she is expected to go to work every day and meet other people’s daughters.
I respect your opinion and understand your position but it is because people have decided to make their own decisions we continue to be further constrained.

I have missed several Christmases and been away from family and loved ones, we simply delayed ours till we could be together.

I know it's a shitter, but sacrifices are needed if we want our freedoms back sooner rather than later.
 
When is life absolutely safe?
My mother died at 53, brother in law at 56 both from treatable conditions their doctors missed.
I have worked in schools where accidents outside have killed an 11 year old and a 14 year old..
I‘m not advocating mass walkouts with gatherings of hundreds, or not wearing a mask in shops, but I do believe we are entitled to make some decisions for ourselves.
Its illegal for me to meet my daughter. Yet she is expected to go to work every day and meet other people’s daughters.
I work in early years and the number of parents who said, when nurseries and schools reopened in June, ‘I’m not sending mine back until September when it will be safe(r)‘. Yes that worked well......
 
Absolutely agree.

Grandson was sent home yesterday for 14 days isolation and his brother my other grandson is going to the same school and he's in school today.

In what parallel universe is that effective in any way whatsoever?
I think it’s the parallel universe where large crowds of demonstrators are allowed to gather in city centres with the police watching on.
The kind of universe where it seems acceptable to have hundreds at a rave for over 24 hours with the police ‘monitoring the situation’.
The universe where midwives, nurses, health visitors, reception staff can paw all over my 19 day old grandson that we legally can’t meet anywhere.
 
I don’t want to do any of those things. I want to take my mum to church on what will be her last Christmas with us, take my elderly aunt to visit my Dads grave and go for lunch, see my baby granddaughter at some point. At present I can’t do any of those things. There has to be some sort of compromise.

I know how you feel believe me but sadly we are dealing with an enemy that has no understanding of compromise. Even in the days where mass slaughter was seemingly acceptable they stopped a world war for Xmas....sadly the virus will respect no such arrangement.

I firmly believe the only sensible way now we have some light at the end of the tunnel is to strangle the life out of this bastard thing and finish it off as quick as possible,
 
I respect your opinion and understand your position but it is because people have decided to make their own decisions we continue to be further constrained.

I have missed several Christmases and been away from family and loved ones, we simply delayed ours till we could be together.

I know it's a shitter, but sacrifices are needed if we want our freedoms back sooner rather than later.
And sacrifices have been made.
 
I know how you feel believe me but sadly we are dealing with an enemy that has no understanding of compromise. Even in the days where mass slaughter was seemingly acceptable they stopped a world war for Xmas....sadly the virus will respect no such arrangement.

I firmly believe the only sensible way now we have some light at the end of the tunnel is to strangle the life out of this bastard thing and finish it off as quick as possible,
I share your view to the letter. First Christmas in 49 years I won't spend with my folks. At 70 and 68 how many do they have left? Hopefully many. Who knows though?
The idea of letting families gather for the day is absurd, and will bite hard come February and march.
 
Not by all, which is the problem.
You see that’s all relative.
Some believe they made sacrifices by legally getting on a plane and going to Spain rather than to the USA. Then returned here with over three hundred new and different strains of Covid.
Others cancelled all their holidays, never went to the pub or restaurant, worked from home but broke the rules by having an illegal social distancing bbq in the garden.

Who do you think contributed to the greater growth in cases?
 
I share your view to the letter. First Christmas in 49 years I won't spend with my folks. At 70 and 68 how many do they have left? Hopefully many. Who knows though?
The idea of letting families gather for the day is absurd, and will bite hard come February and march

This. Its absolutely ridiculous. My mum is 84 just over Covid, who knows if she will be around for the next one, lucky she is for this one getting the virus at her age. Its very sad that a time of year special to many is not going to be what they want but lets make sure as many as possible can be around when it is.

How stupid would it be to get a massive load of infections because of one bloody week of the year.
 
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