Covid and travel discussion

Mother in law goes Palma Nova on Sunday, both fully jabbed and have their tests booked. Hopefully the amber doesn't affect them too much.
 
Scottyboi said:
Mother in law goes Palma Nova on Sunday, both fully jabbed and have their tests booked. Hopefully the amber doesn't affect them too much.
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They will be fine then.
If you're double jabbed then amber essentially merges into green.

The only problem will be if the Balearics goes red, of which a travel person on Twitter is claiming could be a possibility due to rise in cases but also huge increase in positivity rate.

Watch this space....
 
feedthegoat27 said:
They will be fine then.
If you're double jabbed then amber essentially merges into green.

The only problem will be if the Balearics goes red, of which a travel person on Twitter is claiming could be a possibility due to rise in cases but also huge increase in positivity rate.

Watch this space....
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I can't imagine they'd have enough hotel beds to enforce this. If they are struggling with Border Force dealing with the number of incoming passengers, think of the operation they'd have to launch to make sure everybody returning has to go to a hotel on their return.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
They will be fine then.
If you're double jabbed then amber essentially merges into green.

The only problem will be if the Balearics goes red, of which a travel person on Twitter is claiming could be a possibility due to rise in cases but also huge increase in positivity rate.

Watch this space....
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Paul Charles has been consistently wrong throughout the pandemic so here's hoping he is again this time.

Besides Portugal when the Brazilian variant was deemed a big threat I cant think of any European country that's been on hotel quarantine? (Turkey aside)
 
ell said:
Paul Charles has been consistently wrong throughout the pandemic so here's hoping he is again this time.

Besides Portugal when the Brazilian variant was deemed a big threat I cant think of any European country that's been on hotel quarantine? (Turkey aside)
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Yeah it seems a stretch to think the Balearics will jump from green (watchlist) to red in one announcement.
For that to happen it really should be something serious and catastrophic, not just a fairly standard rise in cases/positivity with more people heading there recently.

It does look a cert to move to amber though (negligible if double jabbed)

He has indeed been consistently wrong, long may that continue.

I think Turkey and Portugal are the only European nations to have been slapped on the red list.
Tunisia and Egypt are fairly close to home, and then the rest of red are generally long haul destinations.
To stick the Balearics on red would be an anomaly and way OTT in my opinion.
 
Question....
I'm 50 on 6th August and the wife has arranged for a few of us to stay at a family villa in Spain for a week from the 8th.
Everyone is double jabbed.
If one of us was to test positive before our return,would we be able to isolate back at the villa,or would it have to be a government designated hotel?

She's a rag and tried to book it from the 5th,I told her to fuckoff,the match is on the 7th.
 
RobMCFC said:
I can't imagine they'd have enough hotel beds to enforce this. If they are struggling with Border Force dealing with the number of incoming passengers, think of the operation they'd have to launch to make sure everybody returning has to go to a hotel on their return.
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Another problem is hotel quarantine is only at selected, big airports.

Whereas flights from/to the Balearics depart/arrive from all over the place.

How they will enforce someone landing at Teeside airport from Majorca and getting them to a hotel quarantine facility in Birmingham or London is anyone's guess.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Question....
I'm 50 on 6th August and the wife has arranged for a few of us to stay at a family villa in Spain for a week from the 8th.
Everyone is double jabbed.
If one of us was to test positive before our return,would we be able to isolate back at the villa,or would it have to be a government designated hotel?

She's a rag and tried to book it from the 5th,I told her to fuckoff,the match is on the 7th.
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You have to follow the local health/Covid guidelines.

It can be difficult to find out exactly what that entails, but I would go on the assumption anyone positive will be carted off somewhere (and treat it as a bonus if they can remain at a private villa or property)

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Coronavirus - Spain travel advice - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

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Spain Travel Health (spth.gob.es)
 
The real issue with holidays is that despite the vaccine it's now a lot more complicated and difficult than it was last year when we had no vaccine!
The traffic light system is a joke and they seem to be making up new roles and creating obstacles on a daily basis.
They clearly don't want anyone to travel abroad - is the push to make us more greener behind some of these decisions?
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
The real issue with holidays is that despite the vaccine it's now a lot more complicated and difficult than it was last year when we had no vaccine!
The traffic light system is a joke and they seem to be making up new roles and creating obstacles on a daily basis.
They clearly don't want anyone to travel abroad - is the push to make us more greener behind some of these decisions?
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I think the problem is that the government want to have their cake and eat it.

On the one hand they want to be seen to be allowing people the choice to travel, but on the other hand they are making it more difficult so that most people won't bother.

Of course they can't be seen to be admitting that. It's nothing to do with being greener or even getting us to spend more money in this country. It's all to do with how they look to the press and public. I can't think of a better explanation that fits what is now happening than that.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
The real issue with holidays is that despite the vaccine it's now a lot more complicated and difficult than it was last year when we had no vaccine!
The traffic light system is a joke and they seem to be making up new roles and creating obstacles on a daily basis.
They clearly don't want anyone to travel abroad - is the push to make us more greener behind some of these decisions?
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This is exactly why I went away multiple times between July and December last year.
Took advantage of cheap flights and hotels and took various punts which all worked out fine (bit of luck along the way too)
Mostly just short breaks, which aren't really viable at the moment for obvious reasons.
Certainly no regrets and I enjoyed my breaks to Majorca, Zante, Perugia, Halkidiki, Gran Canaria and Madeira.

So far this year I've only left the country once; Porto, and that wouldn't have happened if we didn't make the final.

To say I have itchy feet would be an understatement!
 
RobMCFC said:
I think the problem is that the government want to have their cake and eat it.

On the one hand they want to be seen to be allowing people the choice to travel, but on the other hand they are making it more difficult so that most people won't bother.

Of course they can't be seen to be admitting that. It's nothing to do with being greener or even getting us to spend more money in this country. It's all to do with how they look to the press and public. I can't think of a better explanation that fits what is now happening than that.
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Yeah would agree with this.

It also means they don't have to help out the travel industry with sector specific support.
Because international travel is open and happening (even though effectively it really isn't)
 
RobMCFC said:
I think the problem is that the government want to have their cake and eat it.

On the one hand they want to be seen to be allowing people the choice to travel, but on the other hand they are making it more difficult so that most people won't bother.

Of course they can't be seen to be admitting that. It's nothing to do with being greener or even getting us to spend more money in this country. It's all to do with how they look to the press and public. I can't think of a better explanation that fits what is now happening than that.
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Nobody knows but for me it should be a yes or no carte blanche. Will going abroad ever be the same again or maybe it will become affordable just to the rich.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
This is exactly why I went away multiple times between July and December last year.
Took advantage of cheap flights and hotels and took various punts which all worked out fine (bit of luck along the way too)
Mostly just short breaks, which aren't really viable at the moment for obvious reasons.
Certainly no regrets and I enjoyed my breaks to Majorca, Zante, Perugia, Halkidiki, Gran Canaria and Madeira.

So far this year I've only left the country once; Porto, and that wouldn't have happened if we didn't make the final.

To say I have itchy feet would be an understatement!
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Lucky you, i've not been out of the country for 6 years now
 
RobMCFC said:
I think the problem is that the government want to have their cake and eat it.

On the one hand they want to be seen to be allowing people the choice to travel, but on the other hand they are making it more difficult so that most people won't bother.

Of course they can't be seen to be admitting that. It's nothing to do with being greener or even getting us to spend more money in this country. It's all to do with how they look to the press and public. I can't think of a better explanation that fits what is now happening than that.
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It's exactly this. But that's what you get when you have a populist twat in charge of the country who wants to be all things to all men.
 
canyerdogputoutafire said:
I was just about to pay the balance on the apartment we rent in Portugal until my wife informs me our AstraZeneca jabs are not on the approved list. What a fucking year.
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@canyerdogputoutafire looks like it’s been sorted for you. Enjoy your hols!

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Travellers with Indian-made AstraZeneca jab will not be turned away from Malta

Malta was reportedly refusing to accept UK travellers vaccinated with jabs manufactured in India
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
 
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