Covid: Personal views

Vaccine conspiracies were at there height during the first wave, i think they've wavered down now as time has gone and more people want their lives back to norm - only thing that could send a shockwave is when sky news shows a big yellow bulletin that someone has died from taking the Vaccine.
 
M18CTID said:
I think there’s a big difference between those who are understandably a little nervous about taking a new vaccine that has been developed in a very short space of time, and those out and out tin foil hat nutjobs like the one below I’ve encountered on Twatter:

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There is a huge difference, and it is why middle ground on the whole subject needs to be found but it isn't, the plandemcs have their side, the doom and gloom mob addicted to the daily death toll have theirs. I guess parliment are in a difficult position to some extent. But the problems this is causing ( other than covid related ) do seem to be somewhat ignored.
 
oman0115 said:
You start telling people what they should have injected in their bodies and you are going to get a problem. You start telling them they can't have their freedom they've grown up with without it you are going to have far out reaching social revolt. The protests we see now ( or don't depending on which news source you subscribe to ) are the tip of the iceberg. To dismiss someone as a simpleton for not wanting a vaccine frankly says more about you than them, and to not do your own research and completely believe what you are being told to do is well frankly your choice. Don't say 'well the scientists say' because they are not universally unanimous on a) we need mass vaccination or b) Covid is the life threatening mass killer we are told.

And to your last point, simple offer it to people who are vulnerable and at risk first, for most people the effects are the same as a cold or no affects at all, I ask if the affected group are vaccinated ( at there own discretion of course ) why does there need to be worldwide vaccination? Do you not even look at the death stats and see more are well into old age and with pre existing conditions and question why a healthy individual needs to be vaccinate, with a vaccine which currently is showing less effectiveness than the good old immune system? I am not digging you out, I just struggle with the concept that people are begging to have a vaccine inserted in them when it hasn't gone through the rigorous tests most vaccinations do.
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What exactly are your qualifications to talk about this?
 
oman0115 said:
But the problems this is causing ( other than covid related ) do seem to be somewhat ignored.
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Ignored? Really??

Because I'm sure I read something about an unprecedented Furlough scheme and other programmes to support people economically.

And you miss the key point: the countries that have suffered the most from the other problems are those that have failed to suppress the virus, not those who have cracked down on it.
 
oman0115 said:
There is a huge difference, and it is why middle ground on the whole subject needs to be found but it isn't, the plandemcs have their side, the doom and gloom mob addicted to the daily death toll have theirs. I guess parliment are in a difficult position to some extent. But the problems this is causing ( other than covid related ) do seem to be somewhat ignored.
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You clearly have read conspiracy theories in order to get your ‘view’ though.

The truth is that vaccination has helped to eliminate or stop the spread of various different diseases and will continue to do so in the future.

There’s nothing ‘scientific’ at all about your posts unfortunately so it discredits itself.
 
HelloCity said:
You clearly have read conspiracy theories in order to get your ‘view’ though.

The truth is that vaccination has helped to eliminate or stop the spread of various different diseases and will continue to do so in the future.

There’s nothing ‘scientific’ at all about your posts unfortunately so it discredits itself.
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There is very little scientific getting talked about on this forum in relation to corona virus to be fair. Last night I saw a meme with baby jesus saying something like he had a quiet first Christmas you can have one too haha.
 
oman0115 said:
There is very little scientific getting talked about on this forum in relation to corona virus to be fair. Last night I saw a meme with baby jesus saying something like he had a quiet first Christmas you can have one too haha.
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There has been countless links to science, there is more science available from this thread than any news provider I've seen.
 
blueparrot said:
There has been countless links to science, there is more science available from this thread than any news provider I've seen.
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To be fair that was in the covid thread before it got moved to the woo woo thread, I've not been in here before and won't be hanging around in it.
 
oman0115 said:
There is very little scientific getting talked about on this forum in relation to corona virus to be fair. Last night I saw a meme with baby jesus saying something like he had a quiet first Christmas you can have one too haha.
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Oh come on, this thread is full of people trusting the science. Its not scientific because non of us are scientists (Apologies to any Blue scientists)

Why are you calling it a Plandemic? Is it becnause its catchy or that you really think this pandemic (And all the deaths) were planned? LOL surely not? Please tell me that isnt what you think? Would like to know though.. Why plandemic?
 
oman0115 said:
From the national institute of public health;

''It is difficult to say when there will be an effective vaccine against the novel coronavirus. It takes a long time to develop a vaccine for a new infectious disease, usually as long as 5 to 10 years. Every effort is being made to accelerate development of a vaccine for COVID-19.''

This bit in bold, is enough to make people worry and question the process, and no one can blame a single person for being wary and cautious over their own health because of it. My parents have had covid, they had a rough time but thankfully survived. They've been told a whole host of information, they have antibodies so are unlikey to have it twice, indeed I think four people ( may be wrong ) have had it twice world wide. Would I like them to have it, a part of me yes, but I respect their right to be cautious. PS they are not simpletons, both were doctors ;-)
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Fair enough... They will never make a vaccine mandatory anyway. Will I be taking it as soon as its available... Fuck yeah!! Will SWMBO who has Lymphoma take it as soon as it's available.. Fuck yeah!!

The more people refuse it the sooner we'll get ours
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Oh come on, this thread is full of people trusting the science. Its not scientific because non of us are scientists (Apologies to any Blue scientists)

Why are you calling it a Plandemic? Is it becnause its catchy or that you really think this pandemic (And all the deaths) were planned? LOL surely not? Please tell me that isnt what you think? Would like to know though.. Why plandemic?
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I have never referred to it as a plandemic, moreover I stated my parents have had it. But if the BM sewing circle want to make things up it's ok haha.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
It (they actually) have.

Assessment of this to be confirmed by regulators, which is why dosing hadn't started.

[Edit: you can read the summary of the clinical trials online - they have to be registered. For example here for oxford/AZ UK trial https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/trial/2020-001228-32/GB ]
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They'll certainly have gone through enough testing to pass regulation, assuming they pass regulation.

Comparing this with other vaccines doesn't make a lot of sense to me - most vaccines aren't generated to stop a pandemic, but have years to create; also, I assume there are significantly different standards required for dead virus/non-virus vaccines.
 
Not a personal view as such but an interesting article. Personally, I’m not sure why there isn’t a law against cunts like this spreading disinformation and certain conspiracy theories. Not largely harmless ones such as the moon landings being fake, but those around Covid being a hoax as spreading shite like that can - and almost certainly already has - led to loss of life:
www.theguardian.com

How an anti-lockdown 'truthpaper' bypasses online factcheckers

Self-published newspaper uses Facebook and Twitter to recruit volunteers and increase reach
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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They've been telling us we need to 'act now to curb the spread of the virus' since March last year (in the UK at least).

Wash your hands and use sanitiser
Keep 2m apart ("social-distance")
Wear a face covering (since June/July)

Have these actions 'curbed the spread of the virus'?

Close the schools
Close the pubs
Close the hairdressers
Close the leisure centres and gyms
Close the playgrounds

Have these actions 'curbed the spread of the virus'?

Nothing anyone is being told to do is making any difference. The virus somehow 'keeps spreading'.

Because its all a fallacy. The stats and data being presented by the government and media is all based on the premise of a testing procedure which is inherently faulty. Mainly because it is unable to detect the presence of any specific virus, let alone any virus that has actually been isolated and purified in a lab.

Hundreds of people are being tested positive daily now for a virus that they otherwise didn't know they had because they aren't exhibiting any symptoms.

"Cases" are increasing dramatically, because the number of tests being carried out has been ramped up, and because more and more otherwise-healthy people with no symptoms are being tested.

The medical definition of 'case' has been rewritten. Healthy people with no symptoms are being considered as 'sick' when they aren't. "Act like you've got it" is the message.

And we are in a position now where what I have stated (as opinion) in this post makes me a "Covid denier" or a 'spreader of misinformation'.
 
Armaan said:
They've been telling us we need to 'act now to curb the spread of the virus' since March last year (in the UK at least).

Wash your hands and use sanitiser
Keep 2m apart ("social-distance")
Wear a face covering (since June/July)

Have these actions 'curbed the spread of the virus'?

Close the schools
Close the pubs
Close the hairdressers
Close the leisure centres and gyms
Close the playgrounds

Have these actions 'curbed the spread of the virus'?

Nothing anyone is being told to do is making any difference. The virus somehow 'keeps spreading'.

Because its all a fallacy. The stats and data being presented by the government and media is all based on the premise of a testing procedure which is inherently faulty. Mainly because it is unable to detect the presence of any specific virus, let alone any virus that has actually been isolated and purified in a lab.

Hundreds of people are being tested positive daily now for a virus that they otherwise didn't know they had because they aren't exhibiting any symptoms.

"Cases" are increasing dramatically, because the number of tests being carried out has been ramped up, and because more and more otherwise-healthy people with no symptoms are being tested.

The medical definition of 'case' has been rewritten. Healthy people with no symptoms are being considered as 'sick' when they aren't. "Act like you've got it" is the message.

And we are in a position now where what I have stated (as opinion) in this post makes me a "Covid denier" or a 'spreader of misinformation'.
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Bollocks mostly
 
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