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Armaan said:
Another interesting point is that there's loads of players themselves who don't enjoy playing test cricket. My mate plays for Durham, he says loads of them hate it and find it boring.
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Ben Stokes by any chance? Are you able to pass on any messages?
 
You have to feel for Stokes, his catches kept us in it and Billings spilled his wicket but that last over would have knocked his confidence for six.
 
Benarbia_is_god said:
Not going to happen, test cricket is dead in the Windies now. They are just going to specialise in T20 and make it their "thing". Similar is happening in Fiji now, they are slowly sacrificing their 15s rugby to play more 7s as they are better at it.
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They still handed England their asses in the scrum in the world cup and ran them close until their best player was sin binned
 
was gutting watching that last over. Feel for stokes but I still dont think he is as good a death bowler as people are saying, He got lucky the other day with his full tosses.
 
Manc in London said:
Care to back up the empty stadium claims?
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Yes.i love cricket I am not arguing a point to win , just fact. There is nothing that beats ashes test match cricket but it's in serious decline elsewhere earound the world. Even in England other than Thursday Friday if not Australia then they are not a sell out. Test matches in the windies not against England in particular are empty. The game was dying and lovers of the bat were turning to baseball. 20 20 has save cricket in the windies. It's a fast world now and the 4 day game and 5 day game is losing appeal unfortunately. That's the world now. Look at India the most cricket mad country in the world they are 20 20 potty and to be fair to them have made the ipl a world seller like our own premier league. Cricket has reached new appeal. Even my wife will watch 20 20 cricket. Btw I think she could have chucked 4 better bowls down at the end yesterday.......
 
A ****, shithouse, twat, fraud, disgrace

This is the cricketer who was only hailed an hero v New Zealand for his bowling

Deary fuckin me this lad is the future and a potential superstar.
 
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kevin horlocks wand said:
Yes.i love cricket I am not arguing a point to win , just fact. There is nothing that beats ashes test match cricket but it's in serious decline elsewhere earound the world. Even in England other than Thursday Friday if not Australia then they are not a sell out. Test matches in the windies not against England in particular are empty. The game was dying and lovers of the bat were turning to baseball. 20 20 has save cricket in the windies. It's a fast world now and the 4 day game and 5 day game is losing appeal unfortunately. That's the world now. Look at India the most cricket mad country in the world they are 20 20 potty and to be fair to them have made the ipl a world seller like our own premier league. Cricket has reached new appeal. Even my wife will watch 20 20 cricket. Btw I think she could have chucked 4 better bowls down at the end yesterday.......
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The problem with T20 is too much relies on luck. The toss was key yesterday and in the end it was four shots that came off for the batter. I don't mind watching it but always get the sense it's turning into a slogging match like baseball. I'd limit bat weights to keep some of the skill that's a joy to watch. Can't beat a wonderfully timed cover drive for me.

I'd also be tempted to dump the fifty overs game but make key games like finals and semis two legged or two innings even.

All that said, best team won yesterday. England did well to reach the final.
 
I think they need to look at the winning of the toss in 20/20 its such A BIG THING TO WIN I did call it win the toss and you win the world cup so here is a couple of thing they could use

1st a single over 1 batter and 6 bowlers all having just 1 ball and the team that scores the most runs or the batter gets out wins the choice
2nd a player has to throw and hit the wickets from out of the circle best of 5
3rd a 1 stump wicket and best of 6 balls

its so easy knowing what you have to chase down than set a score to defend. ok sometimes you will start on fire and score 200/220 but you still can chase it down and don't get me started on the The Duckworth–Lewis method and batting 2nd
 
willy eckerslike said:
The problem with T20 is too much relies on luck. The toss was key yesterday and in the end it was four shots that came off for the batter. I don't mind watching it but always get the sense it's turning into a slogging match like baseball. I'd limit bat weights to keep some of the skill that's a joy to watch. Can't beat a wonderfully timed cover drive for me.

I'd also be tempted to dump the fifty overs game but make key games like finals and semis two legged or two innings even.

All that said, best team won yesterday. England did well to reach the final.
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all great shouts matey

its not really a cricket game 20/20 its about the batter hit the ball into the stands yes a baseball style of a game and bowler really does not have much control with the bat that are used in 20/20 you nick it and its 4 or 6. maybe a smaller bat or a smaller ball or give the bowler a couple more bouncers each over or a 4th stump or a smaller pitch from wicket to wicket. we must bring the bowlers into the game more and that's the part of the game that's going to be hurt in the long run everybody just wants to bat and hit the thing out of the grounds
 
ancoats said:
I think they need to look at the winning of the toss in 20/20 its such A BIG THING TO WIN I did call it win the toss and you win the world cup so here is a couple of thing they could use

1st a single over 1 batter and 6 bowlers all having just 1 ball and the team that scores the most runs or the batter gets out wins the choice
2nd a player has to throw and hit the wickets from out of the circle best of 5
3rd a 1 stump wicket and best of 6 balls

its so easy knowing what you have to chase down than set a score to defend. ok sometimes you will start on fire and score 200/220 but you still can chase it down and don't get me started on the The Duckworth–Lewis method and batting 2nd
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Id agree with that. 50 overs is neither here nor there now. The trouble with dumping it though is that its the format played predominantly at grass roots level, you know youre local cricket club on a saturday afternoon. The true cricket man (or woman) though will always love the 5day game. The tactics the suspense, nothing beats it for me.

Some great shouts for a fairer version of a coin toss. To be fair they could be considered for test cricket too. Despite as stated being an advocate of the long game the toss is becoming increasingly vital in test cricket too.
 
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bluemoonmatt said:
Id agree with that. 50 overs is neither here nor there now. The trouble with dumping it though is that its the format played predominantly at grass roots level, you know youre local cricket club on a saturday afternoon. The true cricket man (or woman) though will always love the 5day game. The tactics the suspense, nothing beats it for me.

Some great shouts for a fairer version of a coin toss. To be fair they could be considered for test cricket too. Despite as stated being an advocate of the long game the toss is becoming increasingly vital in test cricket too.
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50 or 40 overs at club level and county level is fine, no need to change it there, just no point any more at international level as they're clogging up the fixture list.

Not convinced we need to look at the coin toss in test cricket, but I would reduce the follow on margin to 100. If key T20s go to 2 innings or legs (with one coin toss) then the impact of winning the toss is reduced.

EDIT: or what about the captain who wins the toss chooses whether to bat or bowl, and the losing captain decides when the powerplay is, or can nominate a bowler for extra overs. That would be interesting.
 
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I think T20 is too long. I suggest a game of two overs per innings, five balls per over, that is to say ten deliveries in all, each one bowled by a different player (excluding the wicket-keeper).

Anyone not hitting a six is out.

That way working people could watch a complete match in their tea-break. Women umpires in short tunics would add to the mass appeal.

That would encompass the average fan's attention span, and leave him/her free to do other things that part of the day.

This is surely the way the game has to go to attract more young fans.
 
Felt sorry for Stokes - Think England were let down by the batters. They just didn't know how to play Badree - Bar Root nobody had plans for him.

T20 has evolved and grown on me - but give me Test Match cricket any day of the week. Far better than the shorter form of the game, although T20 has brought some great improvisation to the game, I honestly still think there some things missing now.

I'm Indian - and Indian players were renowned for playing spin - Kohli aside, they are average. All down to mainly playing T20
 
I'm primarily a test fan but T20 has been growing on me more and more. I went to watch a lot of it last summer and whilst there is an element of luck to it, there's no doubt in my mind anymore that it's proper cricket. Watch Root, Kohli, Williamson or Amla and tell me they're not playing proper cricket shots. If someone can nail 6 85mph+ yorkers under immense pressure that's arguably more skillful than 6 deliveries nibbling the ball around off stump and if a spinner can vary their pace and deliveries without getting smashed out of the park then that's pure cricket talent too.

Then at the other end of the scale you have people like Glenn Maxwell who's just insane to watch, pure talent, definitely not orthodox but cricket is definitely richer for having his mental batting a part of it.
 
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I think T20 is too long. I suggest a game of two overs per innings, five balls per over, that is to say ten deliveries in all, each one bowled by a different player (excluding the wicket-keeper).

Anyone not hitting a six is out.

That way working people could watch a complete match in their tea-break. Women umpires in short tunics would add to the mass appeal.

That would encompass the average fan's attention span, and leave him/her free to do other things that part of the day.

This is surely the way the game has to go to attract more young fans.
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The 50 over game is great. The problem with it is the scheduling of the world cup which goes on for far too long. No reason why they can't make it a three week, intense tournament where the teams play every couple of games.
 
Anyone watch that Virat Kohli innings? Absolutely stunning, he really seems to have gone to a new level recently. 4 centuries this IPL season is ridiculous!
 
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