Cricket Thread

Alan Harper's Tash said:
There needs to be an incentive though. Most kids these days would rather tour the world earning megabucks playing rounders than developing the ability to bat long or bowling spell strategies.
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Test and country cricket need to break away from white-ball form cricket
The BBC should be backing the game and showing country cricket and test cricket and leave the white ball for the skysports TNT

It's 2 different games, one is used for entertainment only for other is Cricket
 
waspish said:
3 leagues get 2 more counties to make it 18 and the 3rd div only 1 promoted div 2 two promoted! We have to reduce the county games so 10 a season per team
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Just grouping the counties into 6;regions and those playing four day cricket while counties play T20/50comps might be worthwhile
 
ancoats said:
Test and country cricket need to break away from white-ball form cricket
The BBC should be backing the game and showing country cricket and test cricket and leave the white ball for the skysports TNT

It's 2 different games, one is used for entertainment only for other is Cricket
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Agreed, which is why I was suggesting that players make a choice early on, so that both formats can be the best they can be.

The horse may have bolted now though. Only 3 or 4 countries are arsed about tests these days.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
I genuinely believe that the current regime wouldn't pick Boycott, Atherton or Cook if they were playing now. They wouldn't fit with the "style" that England play. Or should I say attempt to play.
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Spot on.. I even think that if you asked them, they would rather not play white-ball cricket
The need for test cricket and country cricket to be shown on free-to-air channels is right now
Get kids watching and wanting to play on the street or in the schools again.

Yes, test/country cricket needs something new, with a format that must come first over white ball cricket
Improve the speed and have over rates that must be made or have a time limit per over or lose the rest of the over

it would get fans interested in the game, the pressure of a time limit the fans would be all over with every over having meaning, Also have a limit of overs the fast bowlers and spinners bowlers have to bowl that way every game must have a spinner in the line-ups

How hard should it be for 90 overs to be bowled in a day ? weather permitted
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Agreed, which is why I was suggesting that players make a choice early on, so that both formats can be the best they can be.

The horse may have bolted now though. Only 3 or 4 countries are arsed about tests these days.
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All it would take is free-to-air channels getting involved with a major sponsorship for country and test cricket and it would quickly turn it back to the kid and people wanting to get involved with the game
 
ancoats said:
All it would take is free-to-air channels getting involved with a major sponsorship for country and test cricket and it would quickly turn it back to the kid and people wanting to get involved with the game
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Possibly. The U.K. is fine with test cricket though. It’s the West Indies, Pakistan etc where the crowds have died.

Our problem is the lack of participation outside of private schools. The selection pool is tiny.

Does a 5 day game work in the modern word? It does whilst the generation who were brought up on it are still around.

Kids prefer the razzmatazz of fireworks and music nowadays.
 
ancoats said:
How about learning the basics with the longer form of cricket for a start ? fuck this 20/20 cricket or the Hundred whiteball shit. Test and Country Cricket is a sport and takes skill and takes years to master, Instant whiteball cricket is not a sport and lacks skill and is easy to play and learn

Bazball has killed the English game at test level, Quick smash and swing from the hips cricket doesn't win you test series. It may win 1 out of 10 games, which would be against a lesser team or a team 3.0 up and playing dead rubbers

Heads have to roll after this series, get the basics back, even if we lose but show fight it's got to be better than smash bazball cricket and losing in 3 days
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Thing is the short game will never ever be fucked if that’s where the money is!
 
ancoats said:
Test and country cricket need to break away from white-ball form cricket
The BBC should be backing the game and showing country cricket and test cricket and leave the white ball for the skysports TNT

It's 2 different games, one is used for entertainment only for other is Cricket
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All county four day game as on YouTube so can’t see bbc going for that but test match cricket they should always go for it! Maybe if the license fee for the bbc was scrapped then maybe they would have to go for tv shows that will get viewers
 
waspish said:
All county four day game as on YouTube so can’t see bbc going for that but test match cricket they should always go for it! Maybe if the license fee for the bbc was scrapped then maybe they would have to go for tv shows that will get viewers
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Are Lancs still going ahead with creating their own channel and making people pay to subscribe?
 
ancoats said:
How about learning the basics with the longer form of cricket for a start ? fuck this 20/20 cricket or the Hundred whiteball shit. Test and Country Cricket is a sport and takes skill and takes years to master, Instant whiteball cricket is not a sport and lacks skill and is easy to play and learn

Bazball has killed the English game at test level, Quick smash and swing from the hips cricket doesn't win you test series. It may win 1 out of 10 games, which would be against a lesser team or a team 3.0 up and playing dead rubbers

Heads have to roll after this series, get the basics back, even if we lose but show fight it's got to be better than smash bazball cricket and losing in 3 days
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I have 1st hand experience the whole England Pathway starting with the selection for Bunbury, Super 4's leading into England U19's is heavily focused around batters with Intent and bowlers who bowl fast. They are not massively interested in a future Root or Cook.
 
ancoats said:
I think this Ashes tour has sunk in for many england fans (barmy army) going over for the Ashes, that they are being mugged off. The Next time in 4 years could see fans stay at home because they are taken for granted and used. TNT have shown many fans with heads in their hands and others are angry ? The Barmy Army and having the crack no matter what doesn't look like in party mood anymore
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Sorry but I’m not having this. Just like following City at home and abroad, it’s not all about the winning. It’s a lot more than that. I’m sure everyone who has travelled Down Under is having a great time, despite the team cocking it up on the pitch. England could get spanked 5-0 but that doesn’t stop an Ashes tour in Australia being right at the top of my bucket list.
 
Decent piece from Agnew
www.bbc.co.uk

The Ashes: England's Bazball message is dead, says Jonathan Agnew

If Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum are questioning the mentality of the England players, they need to look at themselves, says Jonathan Agnew.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

As with many prior TMS commentators, he regularly doesn't pull punches.

It was noticeable that Prior was more willing to criticise directly on TNT, probably helped in having been retired for 10 years and further away from the current side.
 
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